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A question for a devoted Christian.

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184 Posts / 38M
     :   21yrs   :  
TRANCEND

i know, i got that down already.
what im asking is should the rules be obeyed because it's the right thing to do or to simply show thanks?


"\WHEN YOU CANGE THE WAY YOU LOOK AT THINGS THE THINGS YOU LOOK AT CHANGE"

1347 Posts / 39M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

They are obeyed to show thanks.


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184 Posts / 38M
     :   21yrs   :  
TRANCEND

so it was ok for everyone who lived before jesus to disobey god because jesus didn't die on the cross yet?


"\WHEN YOU CANGE THE WAY YOU LOOK AT THINGS THE THINGS YOU LOOK AT CHANGE"

1347 Posts / 39M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

They had a different standard to uphold but ultimately followed rules to show thanks


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184 Posts / 38M
     :   21yrs   :  
TRANCEND

thanks to who and for what? jesus didn't come along yet, so theres nothing to thank him for.


"\WHEN YOU CANGE THE WAY YOU LOOK AT THINGS THE THINGS YOU LOOK AT CHANGE"

1347 Posts / 39M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

Different standards, Jesus was unknown but God wasn't and He had done a number of great things for them, salvation from slavery, inheritance of a new land He provided for them even when they turned away from Him


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184 Posts / 38M
     :   21yrs   :  
TRANCEND

salvation from who? and there was no borders anyone could go were ever they could.


"\WHEN YOU CANGE THE WAY YOU LOOK AT THINGS THE THINGS YOU LOOK AT CHANGE"

1347 Posts / 39M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

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salvation from who?


The Eqyptians

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and there was no borders anyone could go were ever they could.


Yes by winning wars with the current occupants. The Israelites only lost battles when they decided to go without God


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184 Posts / 38M
     :   21yrs   :  
TRANCEND

then the egyptians or the rest of the world has nothing to thank him for.
if they had to win wars then they should thank their armies. and if they only lost when they decided to go without god why would they do that in the first place.


"\WHEN YOU CANGE THE WAY YOU LOOK AT THINGS THE THINGS YOU LOOK AT CHANGE"

1347 Posts / 39M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

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then the egyptians or the rest of the world has nothing to thank him for.


You have now answered the question of why Jesus had to die. Without Jesus there would be no hope for the rest of us.

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if they had to win wars then they should thank their armies. and if they only lost when they decided to go without god why would they do that in the first place.


God was their victory the armies were a formality. And people often think that they are better than God and so the proceed alone.


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

1677 Posts / 37M
     :   20yrs   :  
awakendwraith

"The only way to show thanks is by obeying the rules"
so please and thank you dont aplly?


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

1347 Posts / 39M
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etherealmeekle

actions speak louder than words. In this case the actions are the words


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

1677 Posts / 37M
     :   20yrs   :  
awakendwraith

wait. so then please and thank you would be enough.


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

1347 Posts / 39M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

A Christian becomes innocent and there is no reason to work for redemption that you already have so the rules are obeyed as appreciation. So please and thank you are enough if said in the form of obedience


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

1677 Posts / 37M
     :   20yrs   :  
awakendwraith

and only someone that was obedient would follow the rules. but i disagree that the only way they can show it is by obedience.


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

A question for a devoted Christian.
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