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A question for a devoted Christian.

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1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

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No, you judge the action, not the person.


Yes you love the person not the actions therefore you do not as you say "love imperfection" God loves us not for what we do but because of the potential we have. Unconditional love still judges though because in spite of the fact that God doesn't count forgiven sin against us we still must deal with the consequences. You cannot love someone and also refuse to correct them when necessary


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

210 Posts / 41M
     :   33yrs   :  
PeteSmith

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Humans know when they hurt other humans. We're not that stupid.

What about all the wars that have killed millions and millions through the ages? Why do we have a police force, an army and missile defence systems etc?

We have no clue how to treat each other.


""What we do in life echoes in eternity" Maximus"

161 Posts / 39M
     :   20yrs   :  
takemeseriously

Because humans are imperfect not because we don't know the difference between right and wrong but because we choose something wrong even if we do know it's wrong. Plus, I could get into a whole crazy feminist rant about how violence is bred by men but then I'd sound really stupid (or would I?).


"If home is where the heart is, then I got evicted this week (Johnny Hobo and the Freight Trains)"

1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

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I could get into a whole crazy feminist rant about how violence is bred by men but then I'd sound really stupid (or would I?).


You would sound incredibly stupid because it is more than likely that women in power would have done the same kinds of things that men in power have done, unless of course you consider males and females to be different species.


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

161 Posts / 39M
     :   20yrs   :  
takemeseriously

Lol, yeah, I could get into a big discussion about the nature of men and women, but I think that should have its own thread.


"If home is where the heart is, then I got evicted this week (Johnny Hobo and the Freight Trains)"

1816 Posts / 67M
     :   56yrs   :  
cturtle

Doesn't history show that women (queens, etc) rule over nations but then we would have to judge that their actions was based upon gender rather the individual?


"Terrorist or tyrant, few may come to the Truth that both are poor choice."

1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

History shows us plenty examples of woman rulers who did horrible things to other people


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

161 Posts / 39M
     :   20yrs   :  
takemeseriously

Let's not get that off topic. I think one of us should create a separate thread for this discussion.


"If home is where the heart is, then I got evicted this week (Johnny Hobo and the Freight Trains)"

1687 Posts / 40M
     :   20yrs   :  
awakendwraith

i'll try to help. is god being fair with his impossible rules?


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

God's rules are not impossible


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

1687 Posts / 40M
     :   20yrs   :  
awakendwraith

but we can not be unsinful. we will sin. its gonna happen. he made it impossible for us not to.


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

1816 Posts / 67M
     :   56yrs   :  
cturtle

In the OT, angels visited Abram, he talks with them, argueing for the life of Lot. Yet, GOD is unchanging then how could GOD change the intent & actions unless that was the intent to begin with? David takes the Show Bread, a sin at least but was not accounted as such.


"Terrorist or tyrant, few may come to the Truth that both are poor choice."

1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

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but we can not be unsinful. we will sin. its gonna happen. he made it impossible for us not to.


But we can be made clean by the acceptance of Jesus as our Saviours.

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Yet, GOD is unchanging then how could GOD change the intent & actions unless that was the intent to begin with?


His personality does not change but His mind can. He would be very limited indeed if He could not change His mind.


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

1816 Posts / 67M
     :   56yrs   :  
cturtle

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His personality does not change but His mind can. He would be very limited indeed if He could not change His mind.

Actually I think the main stream Christian perspective runs like this: the ommi-presence of GOD knows (past tense) what we shall do pior to our coming in to this world; having foreknowledge (perfect) our actions come as no surprise so changing (altering) His mind is not necessary.
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Back to the concept of prefest destiny?
Example:Lot & his wife are told to flee the city but not to look back. Looking back his wife is turned into a pillar of salt, if hse had not stopped to turn back she would have survived but the desire to return to the previous life style was her undoing.


"Terrorist or tyrant, few may come to the Truth that both are poor choice."

184 Posts / 41M
     :   21yrs   :  
TRANCEND

if we have to be made clean,then we were indeed meant to sin.


"\WHEN YOU CANGE THE WAY YOU LOOK AT THINGS THE THINGS YOU LOOK AT CHANGE"

A question for a devoted Christian.
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