A question for a devoted Christian.

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if you agree that its not a straight person choosing to be gay (not a choice well a genetic choice but not a choice eveeryone can make.

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

how would it be anymore selfish thenloving a woman your attracted too and want to live with and have a baby with.. you want that there both desires there both selfish in the same way..

and you really think you as assumed straight would want to choose to be gay?? i doubt that straight people would do that.. i really think theres some genetic directly influned to that..

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Homosexuality only satisfies on an individual level. Because they cannot have children they owe no responsibility to anyone but themselves.

[/quote]how would it be anymore selfish thenloving a woman your attracted too and want to live with and have a baby with

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Having a baby is complete selflessness. One must invest time and pain into raising a child and when a child is born that person becomes more important than the couples own lives.

[quote]i really think theres some genetic directly influned to that..

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

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Because they cannot have children they owe no responsibility to anyone but themselves.

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If that were the cause then how is it that people can stop being gay? How do you alter a gene? It would be like me suddenly altering my genes to give me green eyes instead of blue.

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"He who does not question is lost."

Lets get back to trying to answer the original question.

Let me ask this one question so we can establish where you are coming from.

Do you see your Homosexuality as a part of who you are are or as something you do?

""What we do in life echoes in eternity" Maximus"

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So by your thinking, single people and infertile couples are selfish, sinners, and pedophiles becasue they can't have childeren.

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You're missing the point. People can't stop being gay, they just lie to themselves so that they THINK they're straight, but they're not.

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

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A gay person wants all the benefits of a lover without the responsibility that comes with they are like the single promiscuous person.

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"He who does not question is lost."

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How do you know? Have you asked?

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

Ok, so by your reasoning, nuns, monks, and preists are no better than gays because they don't get married and/or have childeren. Just becasue someone doesn't have childeren doesn't make that person a "sinner". Mother teresa never had childeren, and she's being considered for sainthood. You can affect the future without having childeren.

"He who does not question is lost."

Monks, nuns and priests are not involved in sexual relations (at least they aren't supposed to be) this means that they are not just seeking out pleasure. Their future is in their religious commitment. Gays don't have that kind of responsibility.

"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

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Gays don't have that kind of responsibility.

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"He who does not question is lost."

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So that means they are sinners?

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anyone who uses birth controll, decides not to have kids, or remains single is also a sinner.

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They are sinners because they are only devoted to themselves and refuse responsibility.

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"He who does not question is lost."

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it's perfectly possible to be responsible without having childeren to oblige your god. if that wern't true, then there would be a much higher crime rate.

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

That doesn't make them gay.

"He who does not question is lost."