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A question for a devoted Christian.

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1347 Posts / 42M
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etherealmeekle

You are more than welcome to try to tell Him that to His face but you will not succeed for at the appointed time ALL people will acknowledge the Lordship of Jesus Christ.


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161 Posts / 39M
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takemeseriously

You know, ever since I started Catholic school since I was 5, I don't understand why Jesus had to be 'sacrificed'. He was brutally murdered and betrayed by his followers. Why would God be happy that Her son was destroyed by the very people She tried to save? Someone tried explaining it to me before, but I'll admit that I haven't completely gotten the concept yet.


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1687 Posts / 40M
     :   20yrs   :  
awakendwraith

"Her"

jesus was god. just in human form. jesus did not know this untill he died. i think. ethereal?


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

Jesus knew good and well that He was God and that He had to die in fact when He told his disciples Peter said "no that can't be true" and Jesus rebuked him for thinking that he could outsmart God.
Also Jesus was not killed by His followers He was killed by those who knew He was right and did not want to change their ways.


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161 Posts / 39M
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takemeseriously

But that doesn't explain how Jesus' death, which was caused by humans, somehow saved all humanity. It doesn't make sense how his death opened the gates of heaven if he was chosen to be killed over a murderer like Barabas. I would think that God would be very angry if Her only son was killed by those She meant to save. Your thoughts?


"If home is where the heart is, then I got evicted this week (Johnny Hobo and the Freight Trains)"

1687 Posts / 40M
     :   20yrs   :  
awakendwraith

god never truely understood what it was like to be human untill lived as one. in doing so he found a new respect for them, and granted them heaven.


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

Wrong again. God first said to Adam and Eve 'the day you eat of the fruit you will die" this death is the price for sin and it had to be payed by someone perfect (Jesus) in order for the sin to be removed and salvation granted. God meant for Jesus to die it was the plan and even though it hurt Him he did it out of love


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

1687 Posts / 40M
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awakendwraith

that doesnt explain why. just how. my answer does. and its all history, you dont know if im wrong or not.


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

1347 Posts / 42M
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etherealmeekle

That is why. Jesus had to pay the price of sin that man could not pay. You think God is an asshole because His Son did what we could not do. Jesus could have chosen not to die and we would all be condemned to Hell but God loves us.


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1687 Posts / 40M
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awakendwraith

juses is god. not his son. and why did it take "god" dieinig to get rid of sin. not how.


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

Because God had decreed that the punishment of sin was death. He never wanted man to sin or to have to give His Son to save us. But man had a mind of his own. Man was mad impure by sin and only through the life and death of Jesus (the only perfect human) could that purity be restored


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1687 Posts / 40M
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awakendwraith

i thought we were perfect in the beggining. and perfect things arent impure.


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

1347 Posts / 42M
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etherealmeekle

"Man was mad impure by sin "

Read the whole thing next time


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

1687 Posts / 40M
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awakendwraith

i did. read mine. perfect things dont fuck up. plain and simple. thats why they are perfect.


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

If you build a perfect sand castle and someone knocks it over does that mean you built it badly?


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

A question for a devoted Christian.
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