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A question for a devoted Christian.

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1677 Posts / 37M
     :   20yrs   :  
awakendwraith

thats why i dont beleive in god. how could someone with such power come up with such a half baked plan. i dont think thats possible, if he tried. and if he didnt try, fuck him. hes an ass-hole.


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

1347 Posts / 39M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

It's not half baked. It is the perfect plan. Ever heard the phrase "if you love something then let it go"? God decides to let us choose to love Him or not. There is no more to it .


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

1677 Posts / 37M
     :   20yrs   :  
awakendwraith

but he is still an ass-hole. and jus because its an old phrase, doesnt make it a good one.


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

1347 Posts / 39M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

Never said it was good but it was kind of relevent. But the thing is that if God simply forced us all into submission you would still think He is an asshole.


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

1677 Posts / 37M
     :   20yrs   :  
awakendwraith

yes. but a bigger one. and it sounds like your agreeing with me. that you think he is kind of an ass-hole to.


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

161 Posts / 37M
     :   20yrs   :  
takemeseriously

I don't see how an all-loving and all-merciful god could ever condemn any of his/her creations. God should be a being of pure, unconditional love. Homosexuals are absolutely fine and will find paradise if they repent for their sins, and by sins I don't mean 'loving another member of the same sex'. Don't take everything the Bible says literally. If we followed the rule of 'homosexuality=sin' then we would be able to kill our neighbors if they worked on the Sabbath, stone adulterers, and make sure our daughters never had a window that faced the gate, since certain books of the Bible lists those as acceptable actions. There're opinions mixed into the Bible that aren't hard to see. Don't believe that we shoukd persecute others for the act of love. Consentual love should never be a sin.


"If home is where the heart is, then I got evicted this week (Johnny Hobo and the Freight Trains)"

1347 Posts / 39M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

No I do not think that He is an asshole at all. I am just saying that no matter what you would think Him to be an asshole, unless of course He did everything you wanted in which case He would not be God at all.
Tell me, do you think all people who impose rules are assholes?


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

1677 Posts / 37M
     :   20yrs   :  
awakendwraith


well put


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

1347 Posts / 39M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

Answer the question
Do you think all people who impose rules are assholes?


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

1677 Posts / 37M
     :   20yrs   :  
awakendwraith

no. i dont. im fine with him makeing me do things i dont want to. in fact i respect those people the most. as long as they are fair, and inteligent enough to know when they are going to far. not your god. hes just a big kid. thats all. his way or the highway.


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

1347 Posts / 39M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

quote:
If we followed the rule of 'homosexuality=sin' then we would be able to kill our neighbors if they worked on the Sabbath, stone adulterers, and make sure our daughters never had a window that faced the gate, since certain books of the Bible lists those as acceptable actions


Yes and if you read further you would find out that those laws have been changed. God set those standards before Christ came, and since He has been the law has been revised.


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

1347 Posts / 39M
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etherealmeekle

How is God a big kid? He made the universe He has a right to control it as He sees fit. Besides if God were fair then He wouldn't have sent His son to die for us.
God was reasonable when He only gave Adam and Eve one rule, they broke it and they should have paid the price and never had a chance for appeal because that would have been fair.


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

161 Posts / 37M
     :   20yrs   :  
takemeseriously

What?! That doesn't make any sense! If God is infallible than his laws would be absolutely perfect and never need revision! The only way out is to admit that blatant opinions written by men not inspired by God are within the Bible.


"If home is where the heart is, then I got evicted this week (Johnny Hobo and the Freight Trains)"

1677 Posts / 37M
     :   20yrs   :  
awakendwraith

so once he found out that it is hard to be a human (god incarnet means god himself as a human) he said "shit maybe im wrong". as such, maybe its tim for another resurection, dontcha think. maybe this time he can be a gay, black, jewish, poor, member of the opra whinfry clubn. then some shit would happen.


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

1347 Posts / 39M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

quote:
What?! That doesn't make any sense! If God is infallible than his laws would be absolutely perfect and never need revision! The only way out is to admit that blatant opinions written by men not inspired by God are within the Bible.


You are clearly ignorant. The old testament law was in place because up until the point of Christ's death people had no other course of salvation. But since the death and ressurection of Christ humans no longer are required to atone for their sins the same way because Jesus was the sacrifice.


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

A question for a devoted Christian.
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