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A question for a devoted Christian.

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184 Posts / 41M
     :   21yrs   :  
TRANCEND

simply because your hurting them is saying nothing at all.
and again, without divine rules, whats natural goodness.


"\WHEN YOU CANGE THE WAY YOU LOOK AT THINGS THE THINGS YOU LOOK AT CHANGE"

772 Posts / 42M
     :   25yrs   :  
heyjme1

Maybe, the divine rules are implicit...i.e. within us?


""No words""

1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

But how are they in us? Did we evolve into creatures who know right from wrong if so then why do people still kill eachother?


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

184 Posts / 41M
     :   21yrs   :  
TRANCEND

your missing the point, by saying "no divine rules" i mean just that.


"\WHEN YOU CANGE THE WAY YOU LOOK AT THINGS THE THINGS YOU LOOK AT CHANGE"

772 Posts / 42M
     :   25yrs   :  
heyjme1

God does not judge-only humans do this. And so only humans judge what is right from what is wrong. But the canny thing is that in order to be at peace, in order to know love, one has to transcend the material world and become part of the thing that creates the material world. In order to do this...you cant hurt but understand that all people are of the same stuff...like the blood of Christ...so therefore you would not want to kill but to manifest a positive change according to wonder and desire to enrich lives...not to destroy them...and the magical ingredient is simple; happiness. Poeple who kill, truly, are not bad people, but the products of bad teachings, this does not conform in our worldly view of social order but in truth it makes them different; not wrong, not right, just different and less spiritual.


""No words""

1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

How do you figure that God does not judge?


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

161 Posts / 39M
     :   20yrs   :  
takemeseriously

Because God should be a being of pure and unconditional love regardless of past actions.


"If home is where the heart is, then I got evicted this week (Johnny Hobo and the Freight Trains)"

772 Posts / 42M
     :   25yrs   :  
heyjme1

unconditional love.


""No words""

1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

Unconditional love must judge. If love does not judge then it means nothing at all. If I chose to love you and never judge anything about you then how can I honestly love you?


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

772 Posts / 42M
     :   25yrs   :  
heyjme1

Because you'd love you (not yourself); fully.


""No words""

1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

How so? and how does that answer my question?


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

772 Posts / 42M
     :   25yrs   :  
heyjme1

Does not the very idea that a being created you to follow what it is just for the sake of making it the same as it or else abandoning it and causing relentless pain (hell) unless it seeks where first it started?

Its like a race...we all start at the same point (God) and end at the same point (God). Imagine its circular...some run faster than others; some slower..some even go backwards...but eventually we will all end where we started...and the judging...wll judging only takes place if and when you compare yourself to the other runners...Instead concentrate on your own race; use those further ahead for inspiration and those less far ahead...lend a helping hand.


""No words""

161 Posts / 39M
     :   20yrs   :  
takemeseriously

You'd feel unconiditional love because in order to love
humanity unconditionally you must not only love them for their natural goodness but also love the fact that humans are imperfect. It took a long time for me to love myself and others not in spite of their mistakes, but because of their mistakes. Love imperfection if you wish to love humans.


"If home is where the heart is, then I got evicted this week (Johnny Hobo and the Freight Trains)"

1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

quote:
not in spite of their mistakes, but because of their mistakes. Love imperfection if you wish to love humans.


But you admit they made mistakes that is judgement. You cannot love someone until you have judged them.


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

772 Posts / 42M
     :   25yrs   :  
heyjme1

Etherealmake...

There are those that follow Jesus...and then there are those who understand Jesus.


""No words""

A question for a devoted Christian.
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