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A question for a devoted Christian.

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1347 Posts / 42M
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etherealmeekle

And your point is what? Anyone who understands Him will follow. But not all who follow understand


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

772 Posts / 42M
     :   25yrs   :  
heyjme1

Rare are those who see with their own eyes. This may sound crude but Jesus is a brother; he is not a father.


""No words""

1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

Again what is your point?


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

772 Posts / 42M
     :   25yrs   :  
heyjme1

That there comes a point in time that the teachings of the Bible serve of little use and that you can help people without a manual. Just like true inventors don't do everything by the book but operate through their own hearts, which gudie them. Some people may do this without the teachings in the first place...thought they are rare, and I would question if this is probable.


""No words""

1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

Just because you can chose to not use the Bible doesn't mean it has less use. Just that people today do not want to hear it and they prefer when people paraphrase it and tie it into personal experience.


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

772 Posts / 42M
     :   25yrs   :  
heyjme1

I will predict a course of events if you were to be truthful.

My question to you:

Why do you believe God judges

Your reply:

Because it says so in the Bible

My question to you:

So you have faith in the Bible. Why?

Your reply:

Because in my experience, it fits well, it guides me through life, it rarely if ever fails me, I have had an incident in which I have become enlighted. I believe I know Jesus is the way to God.

In all your responses, you can never take you out of the equation. You have been shown the light nad Jesus shows you the way to the light.

For me personally, the light is within me, as it is in Jesus. Yet I am different from Jesus due to the change in the material world so what I say, unless absolutely pure, which it can't be becuase it is in language, is a prodcut of me. Now what I wish is that I can transcend all wants, all desires to become what I really am-which is spiritual. I can only do this, fully, by recognising simple things like what blue is really to me and not what the consensus view of what others 'tell' me what blue is. This is the only way to truly recognise and know, rather than believing, what reality is. But, absolutely yes...you shouldn't be ignorant of others teachings.


""No words""

1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

You believe that God is already in all of us but this is not the case. God must be allowed (by our actions) to enter into our lives


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

772 Posts / 42M
     :   25yrs   :  
heyjme1

So you think God's seperate from us? Why cant we live forever then?


""No words""

1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

It is because we are sperate from God that we cannot live forever. But we can connect to God and live forever if we allow Him to enter our lives


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

772 Posts / 42M
     :   25yrs   :  
heyjme1

If annything, in essence or otherwise is seperate from God they are their own God. We are always connected to God; the problem is that we think of things like distance and time...which are illsuions or delusions of what really exists. Until this is understood a conversation cannot continue for it is like playing sound to a deaf person..and teaching the vibrations to them is something very difficult.


""No words""

1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

We can chose to connect with or stay diconnected from God. It has nothing to do with time or distance but with what forces we connect with. If not God then Satan


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

772 Posts / 42M
     :   25yrs   :  
heyjme1

Satan IS the material world. If there is a wrong it is ignorance of God, which is evil, complete desire of material objects-but nay...there is always hope...darkness is just a shadow of light.


""No words""

1347 Posts / 42M
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etherealmeekle

No Satan rules the material world. He is the embodyment of evil which is the ignorance of God's supremecy


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

772 Posts / 42M
     :   25yrs   :  
heyjme1

This is classical dualist thinking and something I disagree with. There can only be one and it is different to the sum of its parts but all constitutes the whole. This 'substance' binds us. Now...I think its time for sleep and then to do some mundane stuff like day-to-day doing your bit. These threads go on too much. All good stuff tho


""No words""

161 Posts / 39M
     :   20yrs   :  
takemeseriously

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But you admit they made mistakes that is judgement. You cannot love someone until you have judged them.


No, you judge the action, not the person. Sort of a "hate the sin not the sinner" deal.


"If home is where the heart is, then I got evicted this week (Johnny Hobo and the Freight Trains)"

A question for a devoted Christian.
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