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A question for a devoted Christian.

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1687 Posts / 40M
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awakendwraith

no. its just not perfect. becvause a perfect sand castle would have an invisible barreier made from plasma rays.


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

1347 Posts / 42M
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etherealmeekle

The barrier is not part of the castle.


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

1687 Posts / 40M
     :   20yrs   :  
awakendwraith

it would be if it were perfect. with infinite wisdom, i'd find a way.


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

1347 Posts / 42M
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etherealmeekle

What if you gave the castle the will to collapse or ask you for help and it chose to collapse because it thought it was smart?


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

1687 Posts / 40M
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awakendwraith

it would be smart, because it would be perfect. you see a [erfect human would have a perfect mind. because perfect means perfect.


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

461 Posts / 53M
     :   20yrs   :  
sleepingwraith

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"Life is such sweet sorrow."
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1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

Man was made perfect but also with the ability to rebel. Man chose rebelion and God could have simply killed the universe and started again but instead He still loved His creation and made salvation for them


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

1687 Posts / 40M
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awakendwraith

then i guess man made the right choice. because a perfect mind would never be wrong. EVER.


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

Unless he chose to be wrong. You are so unwilling to accept that a perfect being can choose for himself.


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

461 Posts / 53M
     :   20yrs   :  
sleepingwraith

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"Life is such sweet sorrow."
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210 Posts / 41M
     :   33yrs   :  
PeteSmith

Good question!

Without an absolute moral law giver, it is impossible!


""What we do in life echoes in eternity" Maximus"

161 Posts / 39M
     :   20yrs   :  
takemeseriously

Uh, I don't think it's "impossible". I think humans should be able to discern at least 85% of what is right and what is wrong on their own without divine rules. Humans know when they hurt other humans. We're not that stupid.

BTW, here's what happens when crazy people interpret the Bible for themselves:
http://deoxy.org/godslave.htm

http://deoxy.org/godholoc.htm


"If home is where the heart is, then I got evicted this week (Johnny Hobo and the Freight Trains)"

184 Posts / 41M
     :   21yrs   :  
TRANCEND

but without divine rules, why is hurting other humans wrong?


"\WHEN YOU CANGE THE WAY YOU LOOK AT THINGS THE THINGS YOU LOOK AT CHANGE"

161 Posts / 39M
     :   20yrs   :  
takemeseriously

Simply because you're hurting them. Is it really so hard to understand the difference between hurt and help? I think humans have common sense to know. Yes, I know there are lots of ethical arguments, like is abortion right or wrong and whatnot. Those things we cannot answer and the Bible doesn't give a clear-cut answer either, nor any other religious document. No, I don't believe in moral subjectivity, I believe in the natural goodness and common sense of people.


"If home is where the heart is, then I got evicted this week (Johnny Hobo and the Freight Trains)"

772 Posts / 42M
     :   25yrs   :  
heyjme1

Simplicity is brilliance. I just wish everyone would all realise we all just want to be happy. That doesnt mean we have to put others down to do this. Far from it....we are unique; just like everyone else


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