why do you believe in god?

Strongclad> The written observations of what changes or words were spoken by disciples of Jesus after his death is quite unimportant: such observations are not only vague, but based on human observations of other humans, which has nothing to do with historical fact.

Are there people in history who believe they have seen Jesus?

Yes.

Does that in any way prove Jesus or God exists?

Not in the slightest.

Does it provide any support towards a belief in Jesus?

Not in the slightest. People are unreliable and crazy.

Back to the topic at hand (which has nothing to do with Jesus): Why does one believe in god?

I personally believe that aside from the people who do not genuinely believe in god but believe in religion, a belief in God lies mainly in an un-explainable feeling and inherent knowledge that there is indeed a "force" out there.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

the resurection is faith for the christian
But thats not why I believe in jesus christ i belive in jesus christ because i have done a lot of reading into the jewish prophets
i dont subscribe to this "Gut feeling" argument
i have proof that jesus is God
hundreds of years before mary and joesph were ever born
Jewish Writters such as Isaiah , Daniel,Joel and all the other lesser writters wrote Guid lines to finding the Messiah
I read them and add up all the Dots from his birth in bethlem(isaiah wrote that it would be this place and it was!)
To his death
One of those Breath Taking writtings gave the exact date of his death(by counting down the days from the temple was to be rebuilt) it counted down to (the date i cant remember but i will get it and post it, sorry about that)

"your only poor when you compare yourself with the man down the street."
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This is hardly the thread to spew out righteous beliefs about a Messiah, but since you started it read the Da Vinci Code to have all your hopes and dreams shattered.

To state that you have proof of Jesus being God is the first error on your part. The second error is following this ridiculous statement up with you "adding" up the "dots" of old writings (that have since most likely been altered).

Its not incorrect to believe in Jesus... it's just foolhardy to think you are definitely right. Accept the fact that you've accepted a system of beliefs that a majority of the world in the past and present simply does not subscribe to. And you do it because you are too weak to search for the answers yourself.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

Cantersha said:

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first i would like to adress the statment that the only reference
of Jesus the Christ is in the Bible
and say you ignorant Dunce, you need to stop making statments you know nothing about

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But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect, keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander...1peter3:15-16

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"All statements are false. The last statement is false.--One of these statements is true."

Decius, do you have some insight on why some people may have this "feeling of a force" and why others may not? why might it be inherent in some but not others? anyone have an idea?

"I am Akba-Atatdia"

Decius you ...
read the post again and you will see that i do have the proof that Jesus christ is God. if you belive in some force prove it .
as for the di vinci code it is load of cow crap compared to the proof that i have that God is jesus christ the dots do ad up and only a fool cant read the road signs or refuse to read it
"force" YOU HAVE NOTHIING PROVE I
the jewish Scholars wrote them down hudreds of years before wappy kill piol and they were preserved in the jewish tradition for years

I dont fall in line with religion just because it was their and i
did research for myself and
Jesus christ Is God!!
the truth is out there your just too lazy to look
so you make some story up about "force"
it might not be popular to say it but i belive it that Jesus Christ
Is God

"your only poor when you compare yourself with the man down the street."

"i dont subscribe to this "Gut feeling" argument
i have proof that jesus is God "
You have contradicted your religion. Christ demands faith, proof destroys the need for faith.

Christianity doesn't work that way.

"Durch Nacht und Blut das Licht"

the resurection demands faith i have faith that he was resurected
but i have Proof that he is God and this proof Giveth me faith

and ever christian must have proof of his existence

Faith with out works is Death.. christianity works that way

"your only poor when you compare yourself with the man down the street."

"as for the di vinci code it is load of cow crap compared to the proof that i have that God is jesus christ the dots do ad up and only a fool cant read the road signs or refuse to read it"
My, you must be smart. I mean, for no one else to add up the dots except you after 2000 years...

*cough*

"Durch Nacht und Blut das Licht"

are you daff i am not the only one

"your only poor when you compare yourself with the man down the street."

what kind of christian are you any way (if you are)
if you dont know who isaiah is

and I just like to say that
scholar Robert Anderson
and any other theologian can tell you what i have

"your only poor when you compare yourself with the man down the street."

i think you are putting words in Decius' mouth there Cantersha, at no point did he say for certain that there actually was a "force" ...

and as for your "proof" ... just because some numbers add up in some way doesnt make something a fact all of a sudden... ever hear of that little thing called a "coincidence?"

"I am Akba-Atatdia"

he called it an unexplainable feeling "force" out there
read it again
of course if numbers ad up it makes it a fact
what planet do you live on

coiencidence if their was just one
but their is more than one that lead to Jesus Christ as God
have you read them ?

"your only poor when you compare yourself with the man down the street."

he states

"a belief in God lies mainly in an un-explainable feeling and inherent knowledge that there is indeed a "force" out there."

at no point does it say that a force actually exsists.

i dont need to read them, the point is that i could argue all day that it is simply a series of coincidences, where as you will continue to argue that it is proof, which doesnt get either of us anywhere closer to the truth

"I am Akba-Atatdia"

theory my good man
nothing but theory

and he can prove his?

the truth
i have read the truth
you belive in somthing

"your only poor when you compare yourself with the man down the street."