christians?

Actually Catholicism is a deviation of Christianity and Christianity is the revised version of Judaism.

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The only problem is, you didn't do anything wrong except be born

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

Perhaps you find it easy to accept the concept of babies being sinners before they learn how to talk, let alone sin, but I find it much more rational to conceptualize an "organized religion based on controlling the masses" being created by humans, not God.

It's far too effective in its ridiculous imposition that you owe Jesus (and hence Christianity) something for being born.

But yes, I do believe that you are being abused by the bondage you are in if you are a Christian. It is a logical psychological fact that if you are always a sinner, then you must always feel guilty. If you don't always feel guilty, then you do not realize that you are a sinner at that point, and have therefore forgotten the sins of adam and eve and the sacrifice of Jesus, making you a lousy Christian.

Hence good Christians never forget the debt they owe. If you do, you do it out of convenience which makes you a less devout follower.

And I am reading your posts, for the better... You're just not reading mine. Regardless of how you perceive guilt and sin and permit it to affect you, the essence of true Christianity dictates that you acknowledge and accept that you are a born sinner. This is a fact.

I have a problem admitting sins because I only owe people who i have chosen to sin. It is entirely sinful to me to reject the blessing of life by admitting that you are a born sinner. That is blasphemous and insulting to me, and any child that is taught that should be able to grow up and beat the living shit out of anyone who tried to impose that on them.

Life should be free and optimistic and beautiful... not based on repenting so that Christianity becomes a more widespread religion.

But, i understand your mentality. Once you accept and adopt the system of beliefs that is Christianity, it is almost impossible to accept that it could be completely hypochritical.

Being a perpetual sinner is like living with a collar on. Even if you don't feel it all the time, you accept that state of obedience. That is attrocious.

No God of mine would curse me like that.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

hmm... i, personally don't feel that i 'owe' jesus anything for being born. despite the way you feel about it, its helped me a lot lately. yeah in the back of my mind is 'this is too hard to believe' ( the whole concept of written order and control of the people ) but then again so is life itself, so i keep the faith. different things work for different people. it all depends on a lot of factors i suppose.
currently, i am not speaking with my parents and college and work really strains my friendships, sooo... i have no one to talk to really. and i grew up with all these secrets and realllly bad social habits and crappy morals. when you have crappy morals and no one tells you about them, youll just keep living "the wrong way".
that probably made no sense. ehh
to sum it up, lately admitting to all my wrongs has been a lifesaver because all of my sins were adding up and i swear a few more months of them would have resulted in jail or death. so maybe im still on this novelty high or something.

if there is a judgement day i dont want to be looked at as a someone who just abused life. ( never acknowledging what i was given, such as life,health,family. )i dont want to be looked at as a girl who took pleasure in gluttonous things.

i was faced with an old familiar situation the other day. where i used to chose the easiest, fastest satisfying result, God entered my mind and i felt calm, and rational. two things im not used to feeling. maybe it wasnt God exactly, but it was the thought of doing the right thing. maybe my parents dont care if i make them proud or not. but i hope God is proud of me.

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if there is a judgement day i dont want to be looked at as a someone who just abused life.

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"I am Akba-Atatdia"

for the better: That is a very good thing... to want to improve. I commend you for ascending the sort of bad habits you might have been used to.

I agree entirely that if you need faith in something, religion is a good choice to help get you off the bad path. I have a friend who herself did almost exactly the same thing.

Perhaps the admittance that it may not be entirely true would hinder the benefits you gain, which isn't a good thing.

I guess the most important thing about your post is that it wasn't God forgiving you or leading you on the right path... it was just you, and pride in yourself. Everyone has that essence of the universe within them, and when you tap into it it is so confident and sure that you believe it to be God... which is what it may be.

But that God is far more beautiful and forgiving and hopeful than any God a "guilt" religion can provide you. God would understand even if you choose the bad path. It's your own perogative to choose the good path because the good path leads to enlightenment, which brings about increased happiness.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

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Perhaps you find it easy to accept the concept of babies being sinners before they learn how to talk

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Being a perpetual sinner is like living with a collar on

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it was just you, and pride in yourself

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

The real effort lies in finding solitude and pride in the essence of your soul, independant of anything. Just because you failed to achieve it, that does not make it impossible for others to achieve. There is real strength in that.

The strength you feel is a facade just like a drug, because as you get older you'll realize more and more that Christianity is an organization created by humans, not blessed by God for it has holes, inconsistencies and lies in it. When that happens, you'll go through what the rest of us have to go through anyways... so it's pointless to be proud at this juncture.

According to me if you claim to know that Christianity is the "truth", you are a victim of it. If you claim that Christianity is helping you while you need help, and you choose to believe it because you need it, then you are still in control.

When you lose control of that, you become illogical, because the basis of your religion is the religion itself, which is full of illogic.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

I don't need solitude and pride when I have peace and joy. I need nothing this world has to offer me I have joy in simplicity and I have peace in Jesus.

"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

Case in point.

The problem is once you accept illogic, you can be illogical in a variety of other ways. Which causes all sorts of problems.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

And how is solitude and pride logical? You seem to be telling me that I need what you say I need. I am telling you that I have no needs at all.

"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

wow i am more confused than ever now. i know that no one can tell me what to believe in, but whatever it is-- i want to have Strong beliefs in. right now i feel lost completely lost. (and my dad just told me im a waste. not sure what he meant) but i just want to sleep forweeks and weeks. .......

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Tell you what; this will keep you busy. Tends to be allowing you to find out for yourself; have a google on

akashic records

Have a toy around. Don't worry about being confused-better this than think you know something!

Free wild horse or stubborn donkey?

""No words""

Your dad's wrong.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

Everyone is fighting their own battle; including your Dad!

""No words""

thanks you guys. this is off topic, but i read -your dads wrong- and cried. ( haha ) it was powerful , i know hes wrong but right now i do feel like a huge waste of a person.