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Can you explain a social dynamic (idealistically) where the environment caters to a child being able to make that consensual decision and it providing that child a free well thought out decision?
I think during our life we have to make some decisions: some have to be rationally thought (for example: signing a contract), others have to be istinctive (for example: when you have to choose what to eat at the restaurant).
Get married is the same as signing a contract, but on the other hand is also istinctive.
A sexual relationship, on the other hand, is simply istinctive. If you feel that all things are going well, go on. If you feel that something is going badly, stop it.
Simply istinctive: if you like the person, you like spending time with him/her, you feel pleasure when you are with the person, go on.
Children are not able to make rational decision as well as adults (because rationality needs a lot of knowledge), but they are able to make istinctive decisions as well as adults.
Because istinctive decisions simply mean "feeling our emotions".
I am not in favour of children marriage, but I don't see anything bad in a "short" relationship with an adult.
If the child get pleasure from the pedohile, who are we for saying that is a bad thing?
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Because it seems to me that right now, the way it is, most children are not able to feel sexual at a very young age because they don't understand sexuality, or perhaps, they are socially displaced from being sexual with those they may desire.
You are wrong.
My personal experience: I have been able to get orgasms and erections as soon as I can remember.
I can't remember any period of my life where I wasn't able to get both.
At a very going age (6-7 years old) I wanked with many kinds of thoughts.
One of the first part of body which turned me on were feet and backside.
Around 9-10 my wank-time-thoughts concerned explicit erotic scenaries with other children (little girls and little boys).
The exclusive reason for what I didn't have sex with an other child, is that I didn't have any occasion.
And, on an other hand I felt strange because there wasn't any sexual education at school and it was difficult to rationally understand what was happening and what was the sense of these feelings.
When a child goes to the toilette, knows what is the meaning, because at school they teach the digestion process.
When it comes to sex and genitals, children are ignorant simply because noone teach them and so they have to indipendently learn everything.
It is like to practice flying without any instructor: you fly the plane, but you don't know exactly what you are doing. You could learn strange ideas about flying.
When I was a child, I was able to fly the plane, but I hadn't any instructor and MOST IMPORTANT THINGS I didn't know that other children and persons in general were flying like me. So I felt alone in the sky and I wasn't able to find any copilot.
I call that: childsexualityphobia. Adults have some kind of phobia towards child sexuality, so they don't teach them anything, you can't speak of sex when there is a child, and so on...
This is the root of antipedophilia.
Sex is considered something similar to alchool: you can drink it, but only if you are an adult.
The pedophile is the pusher who gives kids the so terrible poison called SEX.
This is scarying, because sex is a perfectly natural thing, and not a poison like alchool and cigarettes.
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Do you think if society was more open about sex that children would naturally feel sexual at a younger age?
There are children who actually have sex. And I am speaking about intercourse too: I met many adults during my life who told me they had sexual experiences when they were children.
A friend of mine was discovered by his father and beaten by him.
Childsexualityphobia is really scarying!
But fortunately it can't repress natural istinct of children, so, although child sexuality is ostrecized, child sexual experiences are diffuse, but it is an underground phenomenon: you don't know about it. That's why you think that children are not having sex.
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What is the age threshold? Or is sexuality a natural part of all humans from birth onwards?
Every age has its own sexuality and sexual pleasure. The sexual desires of a 6 years old are not usually the same as that of a 10 years old, and the sexual desires of a 10 years old are not the same as that of an adult.
If an adult has sex with a child, must satisfy sexual desires of the child, and not his own desires.
If you are playing tennis table with a person who is not as much able like you, you could do two things: you destroy her.... or you try to play with her same level.
If you play at the same level as the the other person, he/she will be able to play well and he/she will enjoy.
When you get the ball from the child, the important thing is to not give him/her a feedback which is much stronger than the action.
A good pedophile equals to a good tennis table player.
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Why is it then that in animals babies are not sexual until they reach a certain age?
I don't think they don't are sexual. The problems is that they can't express them, but probably they feel it.
According to Freud, little children try to get anal pleasure with their feces.
According to me, Freud was crazy, but I think that it would be not so strange if babies had some kind fo sexual pleasures.
BTW, I don't think that a baby or a little infant is able to have sex: they are not able to express their consent.
A primary school child is perfectly able to choose everything that is istnctive: they can perfectly express their desires.
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Are there any animals where pedophilia exists? (to create a natural precedent)
Bonobos, cats,.....
But for obvious reasons, scientists don't speak about pedophilia in animalhood as much as they speak about homosexuality.
The funny thing is that if you watch documentaries about animal's homosexuality, you see some cases of same sex pedophilia. But they call it "homosexuality", not "pedophilia".
And when you talk with homosexuals they say that in the animalhood homosexuality exists but pedophilia doesn't.
Funny!
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Regarding nature vs nurture, it matters greatly because being a pedophile is not a desirable way to be (at least in your current society) because children are not introduced to sexuality at a young age and pedophiles are persecuted. Therefore it makes sense to examine whether it is a dysfunction or if it is truly natural. You are claiming it is natural, I am saying that's possible, but its also possible it's the result of trauma.
And why not the result of positive living experiences?
I have met many pedophiles who during their childhood had sex with others children and they have very pleasant memories about it.
It is possible that when they think about children, their good sexual experiences of childhood come to their mind.
BTW, my opinion is that everyone of us born to be attracted to some physical features, and according to them, you DEVELOP your sexual orientation (living experiences).
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