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Paedophilia - Page 6

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 36yrs • M •
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why is it that some 16 yr old girls look more innocent than some 13 yr old girls?

look at her for instance (age is like 14):
http://www.terra.com.br/istoegente/38/fotos/rep_casais_1.jpg

she is with a 28 yr old guy and they look about the same. Does she look innocent to any of you? I know some 18 yr old girls who look younger and more innocent than her.

here are her recent pics at 20:
http://www.aol.com.br/moda/fornecedores/aol/2005/02/16/0001.adp

another thing I find weird is that girls are ready for sex alot earlier than boys it seems. Ive been watching alot of movies on lifetime like cyber seduction lately and it seems everytime a teenage boy has a chance to have sex he refuses or wants to go slow or isnt ready. Hell reading all those teacher stories where the boys told on their teachers and remembering back than that although you wanted to do it when you really had a chance something felt wrong inside. Although you would fantasize about it and think youd want it when you see a real breathing woman at that age willing to @#%$ you youd freeze up and wouldnt know what to do. With girls on the other hand it seems alot easier and less emotional for them, there are just so many cases of them ahving sex young since the biggening of history unlike young boys. I think its cause boys are expected to lead the sex or take command of the sex while girls wait to see what their partner does.

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 36yrs • M •
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"Moreover, at least one fifth (and probably more) of the population have pedophiliac fantasies. The prevalence of child pornography and child prostitution prove it. Pedophiles start out as "normal" people and are profoundly shocked and distressed to discover their illicit sexual preference for the prepubertal. The process and mechanisms of transition from socially acceptable sexuality to much-condemned (and criminal) pedophilia are still largely mysterious."

samvak.tripod.com/pedophilia.html

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-pit29.html

"Carol Warren, 51, admitted to having sex with men on the island at the age of 12. It was, she says, not unusual at the time and did not indicate a sexually violent society. The girls were as responsible as the men.

I was a wild one then and I wanted it," she says. "We know better now, and I would never recommend that for girls now, but it was the way then."

see they want it.

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 36yrs • M •
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

In most countries of the world, adolescents above a certain age can be legally emancipated through marriage, economic self-sufficiency, pregnancy or by other means. The marriageable age is generally below the age of majority and in some cases below the legal age of consent. Having sexual relations with emancipated minors is not considered pedophilia.

Sexual desires including youths are common among adults with a heterosexual or homosexual orientation, though their attraction is not specifically to persons that young. Only when it is a specific and exclusive attraction, is it labeled ephebophilia as a sexual condition or orientation. It should also be noted that unlike pedophilia, attraction to adolescents has never been regarded by psychologists as pathological. In fact, it has often been considered normative in some societies, such as those in which adolescent girls have been married to adult men. Nonetheless, it is often illegal for adults to act on an attraction to adolescents below a certain age, and such activity is disapproved of in many societies.

In Japanese society the attraction towards teenage girls (high-school students) is a widespread cultural phenomenon. The manifestations of such attraction, such as lolicon art, school uniform fetishes and sexual relations with teenage girls (e.g. enjo kosai) are more tolerated by society than in the West, but are often illegal.

In France and in most of the Francophone world, this kind of relationship is also accepted. Movies like Brodeuses ("A common thread" (2003) usually show these relationships in a casual way, not giving much importance or attention to the difference of age. Nabokov's "Lolita"-the book-was first released in France (in 1955), while Adrian Lyne's 1997 film Lolita" faced no restrictions in all of Europe, including France; and Celine Dion's "Lolita"-the song-was released only in French by the Canadian bilingual singer. The movie "Pretty Baby" (1978)-depicting 12-year old Brooke Shields playing a preteen prostitute-was filmed by a Frenchman, Louis Malle.

Another society with a tolerance for such relationships is Brazil, where ageism or prejuidicial treatment on the grounds of age has been forbidden by the Brazilian Constitution since 1998. In 1999, 28-year old Marcio Garcia, a nationally famous actor, dated 14-year old model Daniella Sarahyba for over a year in which period the relationship was accepted by the Brazilian mainstream media and by the television network which he worked for. Also in the 1990s 13-year old Kelly Key, who would become a famous singer, started dating 23-year old singer Latino, whom she married later on. Before that, in 1982, 40-year-old Caetano Veloso-a famous Brazilian singer and composer-began a relationship with 13-year-old Paula Lavigne, though he was already married at the time. He divorced and married Lavigne 3 years later. Their marriage lasted 19 years, ending only in 2004. The relationship was respected and he was not persecuted by the media or music industry. None were named as pedophiles, an accusation that could be considered as slander in Brazil.

Reactions to adult-adolescent relationships may be considered by some as a prejudice like racism or the hatred against immigrants: ageism. In the 1980s, 15-year-old Brazilian student Eliane Maciel sought for judicial help against her conservative parents. She wanted the judge to rule that she had the right to date a 33-year old man with whom she was in love, and she won. They eventually married. Her drama was told in the 1983 autobiographical best-seller Com licenša, eu vou Ó luta-╔ ilegal ser menor? ("Excuse me, I'm gonna fight-Is it illegal to be a minor?", which adapted for a prize-winning 1986 film.

In many countries, sexual attraction, desires or fantasies in adults towards underage adolescents is quite common. A sign of this is that, in the adult porn industry, a reasonable market share goes to movies that show young women dressed in uniforms, characterized as high-school students. Some of these movies are regularly aired on popular adult channels like Playboy TV.

The percentage of pedophile perpetrators in cases of child sexual abuse is estimated to be 2 to 10 percent (Kinsey-Report, Lautmann, Brongersma, Groth). Abuse is mainly a phenomenon of heterosexual and homosexual orientation.

The United States Department of Justice3 reports 5.3 percent of sex offenders released in 1994 re-arrested for another sex crime within 3 years of release. The figure for child molesters was 3.3 percent.

Most cases of father-daughter incest are believed to involve fathers who are situational offenders, rather than pedophiles4. Some have argued that these cases are triggered by the withdrawal of the mother from the family, often due to physical or mental illness.

Legally, relationships between adults and adolescents do not necessarily include sex. Most of them involve sexual attraction. Courting a teenager below the age of consent is legal in some jurisdictions, especially when the adolescent's age is above the marriageable age. In other jurisdictions, this may be illegal.

There are a number of organisations and web-based communities, together referred to as the childlove movement, that seek to remove the stigma from pedophilia. Goals for these organisations and communities range from wanting to legalise sexual relationships between adults and children or teenagers, to merely offering a place for support and advice to those with a sexual attraction to children.

* The North American Man-Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) advocates legalisation of consensual sexual relationships between boys and men.
* MARTIJN is a Netherlands-based advocate of adult-child sex.
* BoyChat (http://www.boychat.org/) is a support forum for male-attracted pedophiles.
* Girl Chat (http://www.annabelleigh.net/) is a support forum for female-attracted pedophiles.
* Pedophiles Against Child Molestation (PACM) (http://www.forumbolt.com/index.php?mforum=pacm) is an organisation of conscientious pedophiles opposed to child abuse, neglect, and exploitation.
* tkGL.net (http://www.tkgl.net/forums) is a support forum similar to Girl Chat featuring personal testimonies, on-topic debates (both pro and anti), and coverage of related news/media.

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 43yrs • M •
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Everybody who has responded to my last post seems to have misunderstood my statements...

For one, of course, even on a deserted island, YOU would find kiddie fiddling wrong. Because YOU are still looking at it with YOUR eyes. Eyes trained by a society that says many thinks are wrong...

Which carries me to the other point of wrong doing, my canabis comment. No way in hell would you ever catch me saying that one act is as bad as the other... yet those were the exact words some of you put in my mouth.

Canabis is illegal, therefore wrong and immoral. Paedophilia is illegal, therefore wrong and immoral. The point I was trying to make is that both groups of people who break the law, by doing something 'wrong' in societies eyes, tend to, quite easily, tell themselves that what they are doing isn't as bad as 'those outsiders' make it sound.

I know that when I was a pot head, and hung out with like minded people, I saw nothing wrong with what I was doing because we all told each other and ourselves that it was okay.

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"Always give to the left, coz the right way is the wrong way."
 38yrs • F •
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strangler......i highly doubt that one out of every 5 people has the urge to bed a child.....and furthermore the sites that you provided......support for people who are into diddling children are fucking disgusting.....question : do you have thoughts of a sexual nature towards children or young teens?? because from what you wrote it seems like you might......

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"we are the music makers, and we, are the dreamers of dreams"
 58yrs • F •
A CTL of 1 means that Lady Tazmanian is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
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For one, of course, even on a deserted island, YOU would find kiddie fiddling wrong. Because YOU are still looking at it with YOUR eyes. Eyes trained by a society that says many thinks are wrong...


You don't know me, so don't even assume you do. Society didn't have one inch of influence on why I think raping children is wrong. What part of that are you not understanding?

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Canabis is illegal, therefore wrong and immoral. Paedophilia is illegal, therefore wrong and immoral. The point I was trying to make is that both groups of people who break the law, by doing something 'wrong' in societies eyes, tend to, quite easily, tell themselves that what they are doing isn't as bad as 'those outsiders' make it sound.


Please stop comparing pedophilia with smoking pot. You have no idea how you insult me with such a stupid comment. I don't see children as being on the same level as a bag of weed.

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A pedophile, who is MENTALLY FUNCTIONAL, is naturally attracted to innocence (ever heard of the catholic-schoolgirl phenomanae?) but is unable to sustain a relationship with another competent being.


Um, wrong. There are many pedophiles that have relationship with other adults, yet they still fantasize about children. Earlier, I mentioned a man by the name of John Lockhart. He had a video of himself raping a four-month-old infant. By the way, he was a father of two.






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 36yrs • M •
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strangler......i highly doubt that one out of every 5 people has the urge to bed a child.....and furthermore the sites that you provided......support for people who are into diddling children are fucking disgusting.....question : do you have thoughts of a sexual nature towards children or young teens?? because from what you wrote it seems like you might......


wikipedia is an online encyclopedia so io doubt it is made bvy pedophiles.

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 58yrs • F •
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wikipedia is an online encyclopedia so io doubt it is made bvy pedophiles.


Wikipedia is one of the worst sites you can rely on for accurate information. Anyone can edit the information provided. Example: If you didn't like the statistics that were given for pedophilia, you (and anyone else) could change it.

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 36yrs • M •
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how?

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 43yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that xanadoool is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
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Canabis is illegal, therefore wrong and immoral. Paedophilia is illegal, therefore wrong and immoral. The point I was trying to make is that both groups of people who break the law, by doing something 'wrong' in societies eyes, tend to, quite easily, tell themselves that what they are doing isn't as bad as 'those outsiders' make it sound.
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Please stop comparing pedophilia with smoking pot. You have no idea how you insult me with such a stupid comment. I don't see children as being on the same level as a bag of weed.
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Please, let me answer that with the paragraph you left out. The one above my quote you posted above. I don't see them as the same... though, you making assertions such as thinking I see them as the same, even after reading my last post(You did read all of it didn't you?), makes you a little difficult to converse with. And as for your comment on society have NO influence on your opinions... PLEASE!! EVERYONE is influenced by the society they are in, your concept of child, adult, sex and rape all came from your up bringing in this society.

I don't like being harsh, especially to people I don't know. But when words get put in my mouth, I usually like it to be ME doing it.

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"Always give to the left, coz the right way is the wrong way."
 35yrs • M •
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There is a point, our eyes are all focused by society, so we all see it as wrong. Society, no matter how much we stand out still dictates who we are and how we act.
I see no connection with Pot and Child Molestation, while one is the abuse of a substance that has potential for good (Med. Marijuana) the other is the abuse of a human being. Very little connection there.
I've come up with one other idea- the 'forbidden factor'. People always tend to desire what they can't have. Children want the cookies on the counter, teenagers want the ferraris- whatever. Bear with me. This desire for physical objects mutates into a desire of rebellion, I.E 'I can't have the cookies, well, f*** you, I'm taking them.' same thing with speeding, breaking the law for your own physical enjoyment. These all have repurcussions, but we don't think about them till we're on the chopping block. Now take the above situation and put it in the head of a pedophile. "So I can't fiddle with Susie Sue? Fine, I'll rape her, then."

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""As I sit before the fire, I wonder how many before myself have been burned.'"
 38yrs • F •
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i see what you're saying vortex ....i have done things that i knew were wrong or illeagal.....the big difference is that they werent things that hurt anyone else.......hey....i want to sleep with billy joe from green day....does that mean im going to go kidnap him and tie him up in my closet and molest him.....um.....no......and he's an adult for christs sake.......i just dont see how you can evevn desire a child in a sexual manner....i just cant even imagine it.......i think its fucking sick,hurtfull,and wrong....nothing i've read here or anywhere else has even effected my way of thinking on this subject and nothing probably ever will........

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"we are the music makers, and we, are the dreamers of dreams"
 35yrs • M •
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True, it is fucking sick, hurtful, and wrong, and I'll be the first to say there is no one I respect less than a child molestor. This isn't meant to change views, if anything, it's to reaffirm them.
There is a difference between Billy Joe from Green Day, your's is a fantasy you indulge in but have no intention of acting upon. Hell, if I ever got a shot at Jennifer Anistion, I wouldn't take it, I'm afraid of the friekin' lawyers. A pedo has the means and the desire to act, fucking disgusting, but yeah.....

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""As I sit before the fire, I wonder how many before myself have been burned.'"
 36yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Strangler is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
I disrespect women who have sex with dogs more. They are everywhere, there are forums and groups ons ites like myspace or others where alot of young and attractive chicks talk about their bestiality experiences or fantasies. And you can see thousands of different hot hicks doing it on the itnernet.

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 35yrs • F •
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I disrespect women who have sex with dogs more.
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what the hell is wrong with u!!! how can you disrespect women who do dogs more than people wo diddel [do] children. at least when they do animals[altough disgusting ] they are not hurting children. if any they just hurt them sleves....

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it is fucking sick, hurtful, and wrong, and I'll be the first to say there is no one I respect less than a child molestor.

.... A pedo has the means and the desire to act, fucking disgusting, but yeah.....

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Although i'm not saying your for or against the actions of Pedophiles ... your argument through out the thread sound as if your defending their actions.....which is really sick

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