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The last leg for Atheism - Page 10

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 32yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Ancient is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Good question! Why do we have prisons and all the jive? I mean time out is kinda out dated wouldn't ya think?

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"Dark and silent and complete."
 33yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Jacker_Jones is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Only the individual can determine what is right and wrong because they have seen all the circumstances. In some instances I'm sure it's ok to murder someone and there's an awful lot of confusion when it comes to rape. Now I know what comes next what about people that have no judgment upon right and wrong a "crazy person" so to speak? Well ethics isn't hard to explain to someone. Do unto others as you would like them to do unto you. Why do we have prisons? To protect the people.

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"I love to see people struggling for their purpose in life..."
 61yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that okcitykid is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
I don't think right and wrong is such a difficult thing for most of us, the rest will find their way to prison.

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"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."
 33yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Jacker_Jones is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
I think right and wrong is one of the most difficult things for any of us mostly because lots of people have good intentions yet they still commit wrong.

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"I love to see people struggling for their purpose in life..."
 61yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that okcitykid is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
It is not difficult for us to know what is right and wrong but it is difficult to always be right and never make a mistake.

I think Bush knows he does things wrong, he just doesn't admit it.

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"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."
 33yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Zato is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Some people uphold life in general as beautiful.
They would never intentionally take a life.
To them killing is wrong and arrogant.

Some view life as pain and suffering and wish nothing more but to end it.
They would intentionally kill all life for its own well being.
To them killing is a beautiful and very right thing.

There is a mulitude of mind sets throughout this world makes a universal moral code illogical. There can be no such thing.
As long as peoples minds vary as to will morals.

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"Anything is Possible when you think illogically."
 61yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that okcitykid is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
quote:
Some view life as pain and suffering and wish nothing more but to end it.
They would intentionally kill all life for its own well being.
To them killing is a beautiful and very right thing.



I think your wrong - I don't think you understand these people. I'm not saying I understand them either, but I think you're way off.

They know killing is wrong, a thief knows that stealing is a crime. They may not understand themselves why they do these things, but they don't do them because they think they are doing something right.

Read thier diaries or blogs - show me where they thought that killing someone or stealing something is doing a good thing.

Even a soldier in war thinks killing is wrong but he (or she) does it because they think they have to.

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"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."
 32yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Ancient is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Do you honostly think Hitler believed he was a bad man?

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"Dark and silent and complete."
 61yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that okcitykid is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
I'm sure Hitler believed that murder was wrong, but I don't think he believed that killing Jews was murder - they believed they were commiting Gods wrath on the Jews because they were responsible for the crucifiction of the Son of God.

In the end however Hitler killed himself, who knows what he was thinking.

But if he did think he was innocent, you would think we would allow hijmself to be tried hoping to convince others. I think in the end he knew he goofed up and so took his own life.

But in the beginning, I think he thought he was doing the right thing.

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"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."
 32yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that eliasan is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
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They know killing is wrong, a thief knows that stealing is a crime

This is only partially true. Acording to law killing and stealing is a crime. But to them morally it could be perfectlly right. Each and every person has there own set of morals there is no one thing saying that this is right and wrong. And dont claim that god says there wrong then we would just turn this into a religous debate that would never end.

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"Fear nothing for fear is the mind killer."
 33yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Zato is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
One word may summarize all of this.

Nihilism.

There are some people who believe killing is for the good.
Trust me.

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"Anything is Possible when you think illogically."
 32yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Ancient is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
It wasn't proven that Hitler killed himself from what I've collected. But the point is he felt what he was doing was right and we did not.

What about nihilism?

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"Dark and silent and complete."
 32yrs • M
A CTL of 1 means that awakendwraith is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
im really not tryng to be a prick here, but can someone relate this to the topic please.
thankyou.

i mean where the hell is this going? usually in an argument, or at least a well thought out one, there is a gole. a point you are attempting to make, or a qeustion you are attempting to answer. this just looks like a pissing contest.

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"Why cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."
 61yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that okcitykid is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
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But to them morally it could be perfectlly right


Could be - I'm sure that happens


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nihilism?


It is the exception not the accepted attitude put in practice - if it was, it would surely destroy us.

Again, for these things we have governments, laws and prisons. Government is not perfect, but we cannot survive without it.

Iraq is the the most recent and perfect example of this - we take away their government, even though it was an evil government ruled by Saddam - but we take it away, and they start killing eachother.

It was one of the reasons I decided to join the Navy, seeing Chicago shut down by a blizzard, a riot pursues, stores are robbed, people are killed. So much for power to the people, I realized that we need government.

The majority of the people are good and responsible, but a minority will seek to dominate and destroy, because of this, we have government.

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"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."
 61yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that okcitykid is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
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im really not tryng to be a prick here, but can someone relate this to the topic please.
thankyou.

i mean where the hell is this going? usually in an argument, or at least a well thought out one, there is a gole. a point you are attempting to make, or a qeustion you are attempting to answer. this just looks like a pissing contest.


I'm not sure how we got here either

I don't know what this has to do with believing in God or not believing in God.

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