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Why Do You NOT Believe In God?

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269 Posts / 52M
     :   35yrs   :  
thoughtmanifest

Because they all say one thing... love love love. Regardless of all the other stuff that might surround it.


"Love everyone, question everything and look up!"

1669 Posts / 64M
     :   22yrs   :  
Angelfire

And that means God is behind it? That's completely arbitrary.


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1669 Posts / 64M
     :   22yrs   :  
Angelfire

Besides, greek/norse mythologies, native traditions christianity, islam and judaism dont have any love "everyone" stuff.

Islam/Christt in particular have "love thy neighbor" but "hate thy infidel".


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269 Posts / 52M
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thoughtmanifest

Greek Goddess of love. I don't know anything about Norse...

Native is more mother earth and creator focussed but the message is still love. Christianity, Islam and Judaism do have "love everyone" stuff.

"Islam/Christt in particular have "love thy neighbor" but "hate thy infidel"."

In my opinion "love thy neighbour" is the truth, "hate thy infidel" is the misinterpretation or misuse.


"Love everyone, question everything and look up!"

1669 Posts / 64M
     :   22yrs   :  
Angelfire

Your ignorance of the Bible's more militant phrases is no excuse. Besides, again, just because love is in some of them doesn't make them God.

People have an implicit definition of God they won't tell me.


"Durch Nacht und Blut das Licht"

269 Posts / 52M
     :   35yrs   :  
thoughtmanifest

How am I ignorant of the bible's more militant phrases? Have I ever denied their existence?


"Love everyone, question everything and look up!"

1669 Posts / 64M
     :   22yrs   :  
Angelfire

Because you keep claiming the ible/Torah/Koran say only love thy neighbor. The "kill the infidels" is just as strong.

But that's besides the point, just because they all "might" say "love!" That doesnt mean its God who created it. If it is, God is a pathetic communicator.


"Durch Nacht und Blut das Licht"

269 Posts / 52M
     :   35yrs   :  
thoughtmanifest

I never said that they ONLY say love thy neighbour. You are a master at hearing what you want to hear. I said that love is something they all have in common.

Man is the pathetic one. They're the ones who decided to misinterpret and misuse the message, wherever the original came from.


"Love everyone, question everything and look up!"

1669 Posts / 64M
     :   22yrs   :  
Angelfire

The message isnt misinterpreted it says :
"love thy neighbor"
"kill they infidel"
The message is clearly love christians and kill/hate infidels. Honest christians don't read only the bits of the bible they like.

Secondly you still havent shown why just because there is the word "love" therefore its God.


"Durch Nacht und Blut das Licht"

269 Posts / 52M
     :   35yrs   :  
thoughtmanifest

So if the original message of love didn't come from some sort of divine order, call it god or whatever, where did it come from? Man? Man knows love?

I can't pretend to know all Christians but I personally haven't met any who condone hating.


"Love everyone, question everything and look up!"

1669 Posts / 64M
     :   22yrs   :  
Angelfire

"I can't pretend to know all Christians but I personally haven't met any who condone hating."
You said yourself religous people dont do what their books tell them to do. And historically, things like the Spanish Inquisition and the Crusades show that persecution was the norm until the secular Enlightenment educated people about tolerance.

"So if the original message of love didn't come from some sort of divine order, call it god or whatever, where did it come from? Man? Man knows love?"
Its in our genes. We have love in our genes. Where did the gene come from? It exists because people who love have better and bigger families then those who "only" hate.


"Durch Nacht und Blut das Licht"

269 Posts / 52M
     :   35yrs   :  
thoughtmanifest

So back to it's all random. There is no source. It's all genetics and biology? That's what makes trees grow, birds fly and babies birth?

This is obviously something that can't be proven or disproven. I believe there is much more going on than we can see with our eyes and intellectualize with our brains, as I have said before. And people who feel this way will for the most part say "they just know". That to me and everyone else who feels this way holds validy. For you on the other hand, as you have stated, holds no validity. If it can't be intellectualized with our logical brain and proven it doesn't exist. That is your reality and it's a valid one. I'm not going to argue with you about the possible existence or non existence of a divine, something higher than ourselves.


"Love everyone, question everything and look up!"

1669 Posts / 64M
     :   22yrs   :  
Angelfire

"This is obviously something that can't be proven or disproven."
It can and has been proven that evolution happens. It has not been determined if God is behind it.

Its up to you to find out for yourself if indeed there is a good reason to think there is something higher. Apart from unreliable gut feeling I mean.


"Durch Nacht und Blut das Licht"

269 Posts / 52M
     :   35yrs   :  
thoughtmanifest

That's what I meant can't be proven or disproven... an existence of something higher.

I know there is a good reason to think there is something higher because I have experienced it. You on the other hand have not. It's something that has to be experienced to be "known". If you're not open to the possibility you may never see it.


"Love everyone, question everything and look up!"

1669 Posts / 64M
     :   22yrs   :  
Angelfire

Well what makes you think the experience is valid though?


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