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Hope

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 32yrs • M
A CTL of 1 means that awakendwraith is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Hope
What is hope?

Is it an emotion? Can it be considered a reason to believe in any faith when using logic and reason? Is it an ideal?

I'm litterally clueless as to what it is, but I know I feel it.. Sometimes..

What classifies "hope" as false hope? What fallacies, or lack of, differ in the two?
Why is one better than the other?

A conversation between Summit and I.

Josh:... I Get It Now, Trust Me. says:
why are you still arguing with christians? i actually want to know
Andrew says:
im not. well partially
Josh:... I Get It Now, Trust Me. says:
well, proving then wrong
Andrew says:
the whole motive is to provide information to naive ignorant people, whether they be christian, agnostic, religious
Josh:... I Get It Now, Trust Me. says:
k
Andrew says:
We should have a reason to believe not a duty to believe. remember that
Josh:... I Get It Now, Trust Me. says:
ofcourse
is hope not a reason?
Andrew:
hope is an emotion. it may have reason. But depends on what you mean by "hope"
Josh:
i have no idea what hope is..
Andrew:
"hope" is funny isn't it
Josh:
sarcasm is meant to hurt, irony is meant to make light of. both are humorous.
which is hope?
Andrew
i guess its to wish for something with expectation of its fulfillment.
Andrew: we should have a reason to believe not a duty to believe. says:
to look forward to something with confidence or expectation
Josh: not good enough. what is its cause and why is it so irrational when thought up?
Andrew
something that is desired. thats a cause and reason
Josh: yes it is. so, why not then? why not on sole hope?
Andrew:
huh?
wot do u mean
Josh:
why not believe using nothing but hope for something better
Andrew:
because hope is believing that something is possible even when there is some evidence against it
Josh:
but there is evidence for it
Andrew:
not always though
"i hope i could fly"
is false
Josh:
i get it now
Andrew:
but "i hope i do well in the exam" has potential
hope can be probable or it can be illogical
Josh:
yeah
so what classifies as probably hope?
probable
*
Andrew:
probable hope: something that has logical chance of occuring. So for instance, the chance of me throwing a 6 is 1/6
and the hope part is that it hasn't occured yet, but there is the urge for that event to occur
Josh:
but, for the things we have hope for, it is rarely so easy to decipher the information as logical or not
Andrew:
well yeah it may be hard to find out the chance, but there is probability. Its like chaos, unpredictable but probable
Josh:
i think i understand

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"Why cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."
 35yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that wittgensteins is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Silly post.

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 33yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Jacker_Jones is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Hope is when we convince ourselves that something is possible. It's a dream that doesn't seem so far out of grasp. Hope is a funny thing because it will get someone to do something even though the odds are so small. Or it may make things seem less severe. For instance a little boy has cancer in the hospital. The nurse comes over to give him some food or whatever and the little boy asks her if he is going to die. Now the nurse knows he's going to die but she still has the option of lieing or telling the truth. She decided to lie and say things were getting better. Think about how much better he would feel. You see that is the power of hope. He has the hope that he may live another day. Give someone hope and it's a powerful motivating tool.

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