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What is hope?
Is it an emotion? Can it be considered a reason to believe in any faith when using logic and reason? Is it an ideal?
I'm litterally clueless as to what it is, but I know I feel it.. Sometimes..
What classifies "hope" as false hope? What fallacies, or lack of, differ in the two?
Why is one better than the other?
A conversation between Summit and I.
Josh:... I Get It Now, Trust Me. says:
why are you still arguing with christians? i actually want to know
Andrew says:
im not. well partially
Josh:... I Get It Now, Trust Me. says:
well, proving then wrong
Andrew says:
the whole motive is to provide information to naive ignorant people, whether they be christian, agnostic, religious
Josh:... I Get It Now, Trust Me. says:
k
Andrew says:
We should have a reason to believe not a duty to believe. remember that
Josh:... I Get It Now, Trust Me. says:
ofcourse
is hope not a reason?
Andrew:
hope is an emotion. it may have reason. But depends on what you mean by "hope"
Josh:
i have no idea what hope is..
Andrew:
"hope" is funny isn't it
Josh:
sarcasm is meant to hurt, irony is meant to make light of. both are humorous.
which is hope?
Andrew
i guess its to wish for something with expectation of its fulfillment.
Andrew: we should have a reason to believe not a duty to believe. says:
to look forward to something with confidence or expectation
Josh: not good enough. what is its cause and why is it so irrational when thought up?
Andrew
something that is desired. thats a cause and reason
Josh: yes it is. so, why not then? why not on sole hope?
Andrew:
huh?
wot do u mean
Josh:
why not believe using nothing but hope for something better
Andrew:
because hope is believing that something is possible even when there is some evidence against it
Josh:
but there is evidence for it
Andrew:
not always though
"i hope i could fly"
is false
Josh:
i get it now
Andrew:
but "i hope i do well in the exam" has potential
hope can be probable or it can be illogical
Josh:
yeah
so what classifies as probably hope?
probable
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Andrew:
probable hope: something that has logical chance of occuring. So for instance, the chance of me throwing a 6 is 1/6
and the hope part is that it hasn't occured yet, but there is the urge for that event to occur
Josh:
but, for the things we have hope for, it is rarely so easy to decipher the information as logical or not
Andrew:
well yeah it may be hard to find out the chance, but there is probability. Its like chaos, unpredictable but probable
Josh:
i think i understand
"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."
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