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Ironwood

Jury anger over threat of torture

Guardian told plan to deport ricin plot accused ignores court verdict

quote:

"If anyone has grounds for asylum in this country, it is these men," said one of the jurors. "They would almost certainly be subjected to abuse, torture or worse if repatriated. We as a jury made a decision. To see the government disregarding our verdict and preparing to send them back to almost certain torture is horrifying. We would try to do anything to stop it."



http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/article/0,2763,1489156,00.html


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

4001 Posts / 51M
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Ironwood

America has been burned by the flame of stupidity once again.

N.Y. Audit Shows Sex Offenders Get Viagra (From Medicaid)

Associated Press/MICHAEL VIRTANEN | May 23 2005

ALBANY, N.Y. -- Scores of convicted rapists and other high-risk sex offenders in New York have been getting Viagra paid by Medicaid for the last five years, the state's comptroller said Sunday.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-sex-offenders-viagr
a,0,469629.story?coll=sns-ap-nationworld-headlines


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

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Ironwood

Amnesty accuses US over 'torture'

The US is accused of damaging human rights across the world
Governments around the world betrayed their commitment to human rights in 2004, Amnesty International says.
In a 300-page annual report, the group accused the US government of damaging human rights with its attitude to torture and treatment of detainees.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4578627.stm


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

4001 Posts / 51M
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Ironwood

Holocaust Survivor Says

He's Leaving The US

(sorry for double post, delete if it is excessive, I just wanted to make sure this one was seen.)

http://www.captaincynic.com/thread.php3/thrdid=42762-u-frmid=16


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

4001 Posts / 51M
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Ironwood

The two most hired and used types of people by governments about to abuse their own people by force are Foreigners and Criminals, we know about the foreigner situation as our borders are left wide open with new National ID acts working as back door amnesty for illegals, including anti-U.S. groups who aren't shy about saying so.

And for those who don't know, FEMA takes over in a National Crisis.

Good Enough for Government Work

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is doing its part to keep criminals off the streets -- by hiring them.

During its short lifetime, the DHS’s Transportation Security Administration (TSA) acquired a well-earned reputation for hiring petty thieves to inspect baggage at airports (see “TSA: Thieves, Spendthrifts, Authoritarians” in our November 15, 2004 issue).

Now we learn that the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), which has been placed under Homeland Security’s umbrella, has hired recidivist criminals to work as disaster-relief inspectors. “Government inspectors entrusted to enter disaster victims’ homes and verify damage claims include criminals with records for embezzlement, drug dealing and robbery,” reported the Miami Sun-Sentinel on April 24.

According to Dan Craig, director of recovery programs for FEMA, “Our contract inspectors are our first line of accountability.” In hiring inspectors from one of three Washington-area firms, FEMA is required by law to subject applicants to a rigorous background check. Yet the Sun-Sentinel — in an investigation it conducted despite a complete lack of cooperation from the agency — “found 30 inspectors or managers with criminal records out of 133 it was able to identify.... 17 had criminal histories at the time they were hired. At least four lost their jobs for arrests after they were hired, including one scheduled for sentencing May 6 in California for child molestation, and two convicted of federal bribery charges for promising higher FEMA payments in exchange for money.”

http://www.thenewamerican.com/artman/publish/article_1497.shtml


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

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okcitykid

The blacks where not given enough voting booths, and other things to prevent them form voting, as has been done before.

Muslims are scared and getting more scared, understandably so, having to constently look over their shoulder hoping nobody turns them in as a suspected terrorism.

(Did you know that you can turn anybody into the FBI as a suspected terrorist for just about anything, and they will be investigated (scary))

Anyways - our country has been here before, and as before, it walked a dangerous gray line. Brave people have always stood up and fought against it and won. Lets hope we win again.


"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

4001 Posts / 51M
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Ironwood

"(Did you know that you can turn anybody into the FBI as a suspected terrorist for just about anything, and they will be investigated (scary))"

Did you know that the Patriot Act now covers any and all broken laws, so everyone IS a terrorist, even J-walkers, kids in candy stores, etc.

And with the added ability to strip citizenship and cage you (and or execute you) without representation, trial, or even warrants, mixed with the ability to perform sweeping mass arrests... no one is safe.

Don't let them take your guns people. Might even want to think about investing.


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

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okcitykid

I thought the thing about the no trial (for U.S. citizens) was thrown out. I signed a petition. So many things going on, I might have lost track of it.

But if we lost that one - that is serious.


"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

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Ironwood

They've been "secretly" adding to the Acts too. They often just re-issue old things thrown out or voted against by adding them to other bills, which I have no idea how they get away with such shit.


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

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Ironwood

Los Alamos Whistleblower Severely Beaten

A Los Alamos National Laboratory whistleblower who has uncovered irregularities involving millions of dollars of taxpayer money at the government-backed facility was brutally beaten this past weekend.
According to several news reports, auditor Tommy Hook was violently attacked by three or four anonymous assailants, who allegedly ordered him to keep quiet.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/6/6/210852.shtml




"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

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Ironwood

Tanks In The Streets Of New York

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2005/070605tanksinstreets.htm


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

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Ironwood

Deadly immunity
When a study revealed that mercury in childhood vaccines may have caused autism in thousands of kids, the government rushed to conceal the data -- and to prevent parents from suing drug companies for their role in the epidemic.

This site has partial article, with option to see rest for free.
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/06/16/thimerosal/index_np.html


This site has full article
http://infowars.com/articles/science/vaccines_deadly_immunity.htm


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

350 Posts / 44M
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St. Jimmy

the tanks in the streets of NYC, were these taken during the Republican National Conference? Nonetheless, this seems to be the general trend these days, and what's worse, is that no one seems to be able to do anything about it. If only people weren't so vulnerable to scare tactics.

The truth is, we're being brainwashed by the network news. FOX, ABC, CBS, NBC they're all doing it. I recall a seeing a clip from FOX news in Fahrenheit 911 saying that "Terrorists are planning to use poision gas weapons disguised as pens. I've seen those in a museum, and the fact is, they only have one shot, and theyr'e Huge. if someone used one of those, the most that they would do is kill one person, and they would have to be standing right behind them, and to make the thing work you have to actually press it into the person you're trying to kill.

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They've been "secretly" adding to the Acts too. They often just re-issue old things thrown out or voted against by adding them to other bills, which I have no idea how they get away with such shit.


They can get away with it becasue the american public as a whole has no idea what the fuck is going on beyond their own front door. For example, if you do a google search for the number of americans killed in iraq, you can get some pretty comprehensive information, however, if you search for the number of Iraqi deaths, you can't even find an exact number

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Operation_Iraqi_Freedom:_Ira
qi_casualties


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We don't do body counts.


If you want the truth, don't look in the USA, the bush administration has seen to that.


"He who does not question is lost."
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Ironwood

Has anyone else noticed that though fighting has increased, especially in reported "major offensives" on our part, let alone the still staggering number of road sides and suicide bombs, that even in the face of all that the "official" allied caualty list has slowed down in its ascent? Seems a little fishy to me.

I read something that I can't quite remember but I think was referring to this saying how American casualties shipped to germany or here or there weren't being counted. Needless to say, I think the official line is bullshit.

As for the tank pictures, no, I'm pretty sure those were fairly recent.


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

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Ironwood

Interesting addition to the Robert F. Kennedy Jr./Rolling Stone Investigation of Autism causing vaccines.

ABC Bosses Tell ABC News Kill The Interviews With Robert Kennedy Jr. …

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/thenewswire/archive/2005/06/abc-bosses-te
ll-abc-news-.html


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

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