Creation or Evolution?

[.Anymore I don't know what to belive but Both. Why can't you have your cake and eat it too???]

Of course you can. There are many scientist who are creationist. They cannot discredit the fact of 1 billion years of life before man, at the same time they believe in creation via God or gods. Enjoy your cake.

"No one died when Clinton lied!"

Einstien. When I was in bootcamp, I made the mistake of saying scientists don't believe in God. This guy came unglued (bootcamp stress). He was a big fan of Einstien and assured me that not only was Einstien one of the smartest but also the greatest believer. I had to apoligize or he would never speak to me again.

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I believe in Spinoza's God, who reveals Himself in the harmony of all being.

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"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

I tend to agree, the theory of evolution could be a directed route to a higher life form? Which would make God more of a separate genesis of being.

"Terrorist or tyrant, few may come to the Truth that both are poor choice."

Where is the evidence of Evolution as a creation method?

"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

In the imagination of your own mind.

I can believe that plant and animals evolve or physically adept to their environment - and this would make perfect sense, and it isn't to difficult tor me to believe that it was God's wisdom who built this into the DNA.

This is what I have difficulty with - no amount of evolution could make one single animal on this earth so far more superior that they could land one of their own on the moon or build a bomb that could destroy this very earth.

The scientific community has missed this one. They've excepted the this theory of evolution and excepted a belief that one species could do this while all the others could not.

There is something more here. I will tell you this - when you think you have all the answers then you've missed something - and the scientific community has missed a big one.

"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

Ethereal- if you want the evidence straight up, you will need to first learn the basics of evolution and secondly- understand it. If you never have learnt the basics of evolution, go read a book from a library- such as the Origin of Life. There are hundreds upon hundreds of information sources. I can help and give you some evidence to start off, if you want, as I am majoring in evolutionary biology at university now. Heres some basic fundamental information to start you off with:

1. Fossil evidence shows:
- transitional link between groups of organisms
- geological time scale
- mass extinctions

2. Biogeographical evidence shows:
- biogeography
- continental drift
- environmental adaptations

3. Anatomical Evidence shows:
-differences/similarities between organisms (structures and functions)
- homologous structures
- analogous structures
- vestigial structures

4. Biochemical evidence shows:
- DNA sequences
- amino acid sequences



okcitykid-

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no amount of evolution could make one single animal on this earth so far more superior that they could land one of their own on the moon or build a bomb that could destroy this very earth...The scientific community has missed this one

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"The summit is just a halfway point"

The evidence just isn't there it is all fiction and poor Darwin must have rolled over in his grave when the platypus turned out to be a living creature.

"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

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The evidence just isn't there it is all fiction and poor Darwin must have rolled over in his grave when the platypus turned out to be a living creature.

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"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

How do you explain the following:

1. Lack of fossil evidence
There are only a handful of supposed examples of transition creatures but most of them either been rejected as fakes or are inconclusive. If evolution was true you would expect to find millions and millions of incomplete fossils. Evolutionists are so at odds to explain this that they are now coming up with a new solution which is that you would not find any fossil evidence because evolution happened much quicker than we originally thought (BTW that is not evolution at all). Also fossils and trees have been found going through several layers of rock that are supposidly took millions and millions of years to form. According to the Bible there was a world wide flood that would have wiped out all but a handful of creatures (those on the ark). The flood would have dumped layers upon layers of sediments. The Grand Canyon is now thought by evolutionists to have been cased by something other than the colorado river. This is the only way to explain these fossils and things. The flood would have transformed the earth amazingly and could have caused the contiments to split apart. The Bible states at the begining there was a land mass.

2. environmental adaptations are micro evolution (what makes you look different from your brother). These is completely different to Darwinian evolution.

3. I will challenge these later.

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- DNA sequences
- amino acid sequences

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""What we do in life echoes in eternity" Maximus"

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Certain species learned to fly a lot better than others. Certain species learned to swim a lot better than others. Humans aren't superior at everything... just whatever the apes were specializing in. That happened to be memory and the use of tools, which ended up being more powerful than the rest.

What's complicated about that?

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

We are a specied of ape, just like wolves are a breed of dog.

Another question.

Why the hell are Adam and Eve white? Are you saying that a white person is more pure to the original species of human than a colored person? Isn't that reasonable justification for persecution and racism? Yet another example of subtle bigotry implanted in the racist religion that is Christianity.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

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What are you trying to say okcitykid?

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"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

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Why the hell are Adam and Eve white?

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"
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a good book to read is andrew varghese- wonder of the world

"as i see it the only "variable" in the equation is THOUGHT. you are capable of changing this and this alone."

To be honest, the vast number of pictorial depictions of Jesus being a negro must have escaped my experiences in life for I was under the impression that Christians view Jesus as white, just as they view Adam and Eve as white.

I could be wrong though.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."