If there's a god, why is there evil?

How could Satan have committed sin?
If sin is of free will where did this original sin come from something had to have had an external influence on Satan to “tempt” him into being proud and selfish etc... Etc...

If god is ying then what is yang what if there is an equally powerful omnipotent evil in existence everything has a balance look at the fundamental building blocks of matter itself and you will see this..

""Veritatem quaere et insaniam inveni""

everything is God. The opposite eof God is also God.

okcitykid, again, try to understand, if someone God forbid killed your loved one, and you killed the murdrer, is that evil? wrong it may be, you should have gone to the police, but evil-no.

"I'll heal ur woundz I'll set u free, I m jesus christ on xtacy"

When it happens far far away it is a mistake.

When it happens across the street, it is evil.

Today I read this disturbing story about a 9 year old girl who had been repeadadly raped and kept in a closet.

For fear (he might get caught) He placed her in a plstic bag and burried her alive.

It disturbed him so that she never tried to resist, always did as he told her to and let him bury her without complaint. Yet he continued to throw dirt on top of her as she clenched a stuffed toy. I bet he believed in evil. He claimed that the police searched every trailer except his.

If you was that little girl, you think you might believe in evil then.

I wonder if maybe death to her was a relief, or, maybe, she could not believe that this was happening. Just like you refuse to believe in evil.

"Forgive us our traspasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. "

"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

First things first, what is evil? both in terms of dictionary and your own thoughts

"I'll heal ur woundz I'll set u free, I m jesus christ on xtacy"

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How could Satan have committed sin?
If sin is of free will where did this original sin come from something had to have had an external influence on Satan to “tempt” him into being proud and selfish etc... Etc...

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Just something I looked at in my journey of life.

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Matt. 16:21-23

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Matt. 4:9-10

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"Terrorist or tyrant, few may come to the Truth that both are poor choice."
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It appears to me that this satan and Adam stuff is pretty complicated. Interseting question how cud satan have committed a sin. But it seems to me when reading about satan etc that someone is teaching a five year old, because obviously all this can't be so simpe. It all appears to be hobscotch and all messed up and confused to me

"I'll heal ur woundz I'll set u free, I m jesus christ on xtacy"

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As Jesus was tempted by Satan. Hmm

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"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

I think ur friend was not literally worshipping the devil, rather the bad in him, just as people worship the good in them by worshipping God.

You said a guy raping a 9 year old is evil-it is not. He probably felt bad after it. He didn't rape her just for the sake of raping her, he had a reason. Wrong yes-should be sentenced to life, but evil no.

As much as I hate George Bush, he is not evil. He didn't attack Iraq just for the sake of it, he had a reason. Suicide bombers are not evil, they don't kill just for the sake of killing.

I think if you do a wrong withought a reason, if you kill someone not because he harmed you, but just for the sake of it, that can be said to be something close to evil...

Good-bad. Ugly Beautifull, evertything has to have an opposite to exist. The opposite of pure evil=pure good. How many people have you heard of who were pure good? No one is pure evil, as everyone has some amount of good in them. In the case of okcity's satanic firend, he may have been something like pure evil because he probably enjoyed doing bad, he wouldn't have raped to satisy his urges, he would have raped for the sake of it. The opposite of this kind of people- people like jesus, Buddha, Muhammad...
But again, I think 'Evil' is too strong a word, as this satanic friend probably cud have had some mental instability

"I'll heal ur woundz I'll set u free, I m jesus christ on xtacy"

The man who raped the girl and buried her alive is not evil, evil made him do it, as he explained, he was sorry for her yet continued to throw dirt on top of her.

My friend, I knew him when he claimed to be the son of Saten. He was both my enemie and my friend, he always asked me to pray for him and read the bible to him because he would be scared. He had raped a prostitute and left her for dead and got away with it. He could do anything and get away with it, until he became a Christian. He became a completely different person and was soon written up for disrespect and sent to the brig.

Where you are confused is, you are believing that people are evil, what I'm trying to explain to you - you seem to think its all a joike - is that there is an evil, and it controls people, and that is why we see such evil in this world.

There may be an excuse for that girl being raped and buried alive, there be an excuse for suicide bombers, or for Bush sending us to war; there may be an excuse for Darfure, Hotel Rawanda or the death of six million jews.

Excuses are a dime a dozen, everyone has a couple, and if you don't have one, you can make one up - that's not even an argument.

"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

Well, quite naturally when you kill someone you become all scared. Look, I asked this before, what do you mean when you say evil? Do you mean a satan like being or a evil that is inside? cuz really all this about evil controlling the world etc has no logic. Then again, this is a thread on religion

"I'll heal ur woundz I'll set u free, I m jesus christ on xtacy"

The bible contains all this about satan coming and ruling God kingdom on earth and influencing political leaders etc...but then then the Bible contains a lot of things, such as the Adam and eve bit, and I don't think you take that literally...
But anyway, atealst that thing got cleared up about people being evil

"I'll heal ur woundz I'll set u free, I m jesus christ on xtacy"

I don't really know enough about "evil" to tell you what it is. Because I really don't know.

Just because we can't understand something or can't explain something, that doesn't make it is not so.

God is no more a personage than evil is saten, but they both exist. However, to say that one is at war with other is false. God is the creator of both good and evil, why, my only answer is that it is a part of evolutionary process. I believe that the examples of the answers can be found in nature. Nature is far more complicated than any one person can understand, but we never the less respect it, and learn what we can.

As Jesus tells us in the Aquarian gospel that we are a strange mixture of good and evil, I believe Genesis has the key to this. It is because we have a knowledge that none of the other anamils have. I don't believe we got this from eating a forbidden fruit. The story is religious. In religion, everything in the physical world is connected to something in the spiritual world. To know what that is, is to know the answers. I'm afraid I don't have those answers, either. It seems that the more you learn, you realize the less you know, always discovering more questions.

There was a group who supposidly knew the secret language. I found a small reference to this group in a letter to the those who were to canonize the bible with just a fragment of the Secret Book of Mark. (From Most Holy Clement to Theodore) Calling this small fragment a fraud, in this letter he explains how that came abour and a group of Gnostics who lived 200 years after Christ died who Clement believed to be very Christian. "Nevertheless, he did not divulge the things not to be uttered, nor did he write down the hierophantic teaching of the Lord," Discribing how this group was formed.

This is why I believe the true church has already been taken up, all this is lost, and we are just stumbling through what is left.

"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

If there is such a thing as 'evil' is there such a thing as 'good'?

""What we do in life echoes in eternity" Maximus"

I look at this computer and I see a computer. Beyond that I, me personally, adds emotions to its...e.g. its shit or its awesome.

You can see the glass as half empty or half full (or the glass as two times too big). Its the same with good and evil. Evil is merely less good.

The key is WE as humans add value to things...it is not God that does this....good and evil are for mortal beings.

""No words""

So what is it for IMmortal beings? Is there immortal beings in the first place?

"I'm just another person in this place, which is why its my advantage."