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I am not cool becuse another man makes me feel effeminate.

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 42yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Chained Wings is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
I am not cool becuse another man makes me feel effeminate.
Bowie is so cool, he makes me feel like a girl. If I was female I'd deeply fall in love with him. His eternal etherealness defies these modern disgusting remnants of music ,trying to emulate what was once emotionalism.

I dont care about coolness. I care about being human.

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"When I was a child I flew! Then as an adult- I watched others soar."
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 42yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Chained Wings is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Try to call me gay
Try to call me confused.
I have spent a lifetime being straight
I AM A MAN THAT LOVES WOMEN.
(Allot.)
And have typified what is masculine in my social group.
Im comfortable in my animal maleness.

Yet why does this artist make me feel weak and effeminate?

This is a dude being truly honest.
Stripped bare.

I want others who feel the same to feel not so alone

But defiantly I want others to look at a very very male man admitting human feelings. And to maybe relate to my humanity. Or have an answer for me.

Why does this heterosexual feel something honestly UNGAY, relate so much, he feels like he is so close to another man the deep way he does witth girls?

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"When I was a child I flew! Then as an adult- I watched others soar."
 34yrs • F •
A CTL of 1 means that her is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Perhaps its because he holds traits that you believe are attractive to women, or that if you were a woman youd find attractive. Also, perhaps you look up too him, or you admire him so much that those feelings are being manifistated in another way. Or just a maybe, perhaps you do hold homosexual feeling towards him, but are scared to admit it. I think it happens to many people, they are hetrosexual, but those feelings come some times. What do others think....

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"I have nothing to be proud of today but hopefully tomorrow I will."
 42yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Chained Wings is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
I think youre just a fag Chained.


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"When I was a child I flew! Then as an adult- I watched others soar."
 42yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Chained Wings is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Actually there were a couple of reasons I started this thread. Funnily enough one was to do with you, her. Before I gave you any more advice on how to deal with your peers over your religious dilemma I wanted to see if i could admit something that was not easy to admit. And I wanted to see what it felt like once I had done it.

Since my parents are really cool and don't care if im religious or not, or if i was gay... there would be no point in telling them.

I wanted to find a group of peers who I looked up to and cared about their opinion of me. So I posted here.

As it turned out, it was easy for me to say what I said. Ive always been honest and I dont care what others think as long as Im true to myself.

Though I admit, I have felt kind of embarrassed since posting this. Its probably the lamest thing ive posted here on CC. (Im sure others would argue that. )

Also, I wanted to know if others felt the same as I did. And maybe learn a little about myself along the way.

I am pretty sure Im not homosexual in any way. I went through that doubting my sexuality when I was a teen. And after searching deeply, I came to the conclusion I wasn't gay. I even asked a friend who is a physciatrist, and he asked if I have ever masturbated over a man or ever been with a man in a sexual way. The answer is no.

I have never even had an erection for another male and i have never even kissed or touched another man in any sexual way.

The thought is actually rather repulsive when I think too deep on it.

But there is this really weird feeling I get that I tried to describe here. It only happened a few times in my life. My first memory was of a school teacher when I was in primary school. Looking at the hair on his body always made me feel like a girl. He was a man with mans features and i was child with girly features.

Im sure there have been other examples too. Just some men can make me feel not as masculine as I normally feel.

David Bowie has always been a favourite singer of mine and only recently ive been going onto youtube and watching all his stuff. And also reading up on all he has done. I think its his depth that I like so much. He's someone who has seen everything and experienced it all, and is still sane. He very creative and artistic, and he's so damn cool. I feel like he's experienced so much more than me and i can see it in his eyes. And I admire him and wish i was like him i guess.

So when i watch his stuff I just wonder what it would be like to be a female and be with him. Then of course i feel kind of effeminate. Its kind of a feeling of "letting go."

I think men need to feel "in control" and its the female who lets herself be "open" and "acted upon" when it comes to sexuality.

And when I let myself feel "open" like that it makes me feel like a female.

Maybe its an alpha male thing. Im usually the alpha male in most situations. But there are times when I come across someone who makes me feel week and girly. And I guess Im unused to that feeling.

I wonder if other men feel that.

Moreso, would they even admit it. I doubt many people will, since they aren't as secure in their manhood as me.

I am a very masculine man who also has a strong feminine side and I like that. It makes me feel as if i have the best of both worlds. That im a whole person with both yin and yang in abundance.

Or, maybe Im just a freak lol.

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"When I was a child I flew! Then as an adult- I watched others soar."
 36yrs • M
A CTL of 1 means that ChrisD is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
I know what you mean.

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"The truth will set you on fire"
 34yrs • F •
A CTL of 1 means that her is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
How can you have a faminine side, i dont get that. Also do i have a masculine side? If you are male biologically, and you're raised to enter into male gender roles, that which is expected of males, so whats this feminine side, its not natural surely...or is it?

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"I have nothing to be proud of today but hopefully tomorrow I will."
 35yrs • F •
A CTL of 1 means that washingmypirate is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
quote:



How can you have a faminine side, i dont get that. Also do i have a masculine side? If you are male biologically, and you're raised to enter into male gender roles, that which is expected of males, so whats this feminine side, its not natural surely...or is it? -- Her.




GEEZ!!! Where have you been?


To the OP, Bowie isn't that great, He is also a bit o' a pooftwa himself.

OK I will be nice. He is great in comparison to a lot of musicians. Only you will know if you are sexually attracted to Bowie. I have a friend, who, when 15 was obsessed with him and that is why I know what I know about him. I know more about him than any other musician.

I don't think you should worry too much.

You might just be expressing you apreciation for such an artist. You might be gay. You might just admire him. It is ok to admire people of the same sex. [Except porn stars ]

But only you will know.


Pirate Washer.

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"Shengising Nugget"
 34yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that MugenNoKarayami is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
quote:
But defiantly I want others to look at a very very male man admitting human feelings. And to maybe relate to my humanity. Or have an answer for me.


Chained Wings, I am very happy I read this, because I have had strikingly similar thoughts, about being a male with the ability to express one's emotions and humanity.

Although my means are different than yours, we seem to have ultimately reached a general understanding for this indescribable feeling.


I too feel in most cases, I am/should/feel like I am the alpha male in may situations. The roles of a Male and Female seem to be concrete, but it is my belief that this should not be so. I believe that one should not feel confined to one segregated gender manual of human emotion/conduction/etc.. Being able to break that social construct seems to be a very big act of courage and expanding boundaries for one's own condition as a human being.

I don't believe you're gay. I believe your exploring your human nature.

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"I'm a human being, God Dammit!! My life has value!!!"
 36yrs • F •
A CTL of 1 means that Attolia is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
I have also admired female beauty almost to the point of feeling masculine, and Her's explanation fits me and one other person who also feels the same way. I sometimes wonder into wondering would I want to be with the person I'm admiring if I were male, and the answer is yes. But I could not imagine myself with that female.

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"How can we be just in a world without mercy and merciful in a world without justice?"
 34yrs • F •
A CTL of 1 means that her is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
No i couldnt imagine myself with another female either, when i was younger i tried to see if i was attracted to females but looking at this girl's butt for ages, but i just had to conclude that i was bored.
I was taught that there is a difference between gender and sex, you are by sex a male, and then you enter and fit into your gender role. It is socially contructed and for us to deviate from it shouldnt be made so difficult.

Chained Wings, I am very happy I read this, because I have had strikingly similar thoughts, about being a male with the ability to express one's emotions and humanity.

But how does one express their humanity?

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"I have nothing to be proud of today but hopefully tomorrow I will."
 34yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that MugenNoKarayami is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
quote:
But how does one express their humanity?


Well humanity itself is just the quality or the characteristics of being human. Chained Wings is able and not afraid to express emotions of a human being of both genders not just limiting himself to that of what society thinks he's "supposed to be".

In my mind, he seems to be 'more human' from the fact that he feels comfortable exploring those feminine traits as well as holding on to his masculine traits.

I think that makes sense

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"I'm a human being, God Dammit!! My life has value!!!"
I am not cool becuse another man makes me feel effeminate.
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