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If god exist why doesn't he show himself to the world?

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33 Posts / 6M
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Mr.T

Quote"and 100 dollars wouldnt pay off the house" i said she couldnt pay off the rest of the house.
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364 Posts / 19M
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CrypticTruth

I was using the 100 dollars a symbol. A hundred dollars in the whole scheme of life is insignificant and that was my point. If god exists he would not be concerned with monetary troubles, but troubles on a grander scale.

Give a man a fish for the day he you feed him for a day you teach a man how to fish you feed him for a lifetime.

Zach hit the nail on the head when he said if god did exist he would f not just given the money to her, but of offered a means to earn it.


""Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth" -oscar wilde"

33 Posts / 6M
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Mr.T

God didnt give it to her her angel did and he doesnt always give the opportunity.


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364 Posts / 19M
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CrypticTruth

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God didnt give it to her her angel did


No matter god, angel, devil, unicorn the situation does not make sense. If there was a god, she would have been given the opportunity to make that money and not handed it.

Pretty much you are saying god is like welfare in this situation. We all know that welfare does not work and we all know that god does not exist.


""Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth" -oscar wilde"

33 Posts / 6M
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Mr.T

I strongly disagree and if she was able to make the money she would of.


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364 Posts / 19M
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CrypticTruth

quote:
I strongly disagree


Ok I know you disagree, but why? The point to posting is trying to start a discussion. It is hard to discuses this topic when you don’t back up what you say. You give no justification for your points which makes your argument look weak.


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if she was able to make the money she would of.


Then why was she not able to make the money? If your believe in god and his omnipotence then that means god did not want her to make the money right?



""Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth" -oscar wilde"

33 Posts / 6M
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Mr.T

But your sayin he can give her the oppurtunity but whats the oppurtunity gonna be an automatic job that pays on the first day no he just HAD to give it her.


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364 Posts / 19M
     :   18yrs   :  
CrypticTruth

But your sayin he can give her the oppurtunity but whats the oppurtunity gonna be an automatic job that pays on the first day no he just HAD to give it her.

No I just saying if there was a god he would not work like welfare.

I trying to make the point that her problem is insignificant compared to the other problems in the world i.e. famine, death, war, genocide.

And if there were a god he would fix those and not be concerned with monetary needs


""Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth" -oscar wilde"

33 Posts / 6M
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Mr.T

But your not listening it WAS her angel.


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220 Posts / 17M
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zachfrenzel

Mr.T your missing the point, the point is that it doesn't matter if its her angel or if it was a damn unicorn the message is the same, it didn't happen. You have stated nothing proving the existence of an all omnipotent god in are universe.

You have said nothing logical or even spiritually that would lead anyone to change there opinion. Your the kind of brain washed happy go luck kid I was when I was your age.

For your own sake I hope that you stay a member of this site so when you choose to open your eyes you will have informed people around to help you make that the right decision.

The point that cryptic is trying to make doesn't have anything to do with the money or what form the enlightened being takes on. It has to do with the fact that this lady probably had the same problem the next month, with her house. If she couldn't afford it that month. $100 is not that hard to come by. If that's all she needed someone from your church i guarantee you would've just given it to her.

The fact is I a 18 year old boy have done similar things to help people out. The fact is when you give charity, people expect it more and more. A responsible god would've solved her issue by one means or another or have let her learn.

You just need to open your eyes and at least become informed with your beliefs.


"There was no telling what people might find out once they felt free to ask whatever questions they wanted to. - Joseph Heller, Catch 22"

33 Posts / 6M
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Mr.T

Well what about her husband Tom he was working at someones house and then the person gave him a onethousand dollar check (and thats not even his pay) and he asked her why is she doing this and she said beacause god told me it's the right thing to do.


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364 Posts / 19M
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CrypticTruth

quote:
Well what about her husband Tom he was working at someones house and then the person gave him a onethousand dollar check (and thats not even his pay)


Mr. T this in not an act of god this is an act of charity. Like Zach said money trouble seems to be a constant reoccurrence for these two.

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he asked her why is she doing this and she said beacause god told me it's the right thing to do.


People give charity all the time I give to the poor not because god told me to because it is the right thing. People do, do things on their own accord. an act of charity is not an act of god.


""Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth" -oscar wilde"

33 Posts / 6M
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Mr.T

But she didnt know he needed it. And heres another example this guy was handicapped they prayed for him at church and that day at the church he stood up and walked.


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Wyote

You can give examples of what you think are God's intervention until you are blue in the face Mr. T but there will always be ways to refute them. Somebody who is handicapped may very well be able to walk short distances with enough adrenaline. You can't pray a person's legs back on if they are an amputee, however. At least it's never happened to my knowledge.

Try looking for God outside of the bible. If you do the research you will find that its credibility has been taken down to dust.

Now the topic at hand is why God doesn't show himself if he does in fact exist. The problem is there is a division in those who believe God is showing himself and those who remain skeptical for various reasons.

Those who believe in God or some form of higher power typically believe he is showing himself in various ways while those who do not believe in God spend all of their time explaining away the possibility of God's existence.

Why would God allow this division? Must it exist in order to demonstrate free will?


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33 Posts / 6M
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Mr.T

Well God is so great he will let people speak there mind.That's why there can be a division.


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