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what's the logic in x dying for our sins?
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1347 Posts / 42M
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etherealmeekle

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I just wish they could understand my point of view.


How often do you try to understand their point of view?


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

276 Posts / 38M
     :   21yrs   :  
Zato

quote:
What's fun about trying to pretend we know something?


None the less I exist here now and whether this is real or not I am still here so why not just go with it and find out what happens at the end of it all.


"Anything is Possible when you think illogically."

276 Posts / 38M
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Zato

quote:
How often do you try to understand their point of view?


As much as possible.
I try my best not to be ignorant although everyone is sometimes.


"Anything is Possible when you think illogically."

1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

quote:
I try my best not to be ignorant although everyone is sometimes.


If everything is possible then nothing can be known therefore we must all be ignorant all the time.


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

276 Posts / 38M
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Zato

This again..

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If everything is possible then nothing can be known therefore we must all be ignorant all the time.


Yep. your right.

But there are 2 ways to look at this subject (atleast for me there are 2). You go with perceived experience like if you stick your hand in a fire you will be burned everytime.
Logical Sense.

Along with logical sense which is what is most real we must not forget that even though this is what is most real it may too be a false reality. For we all may be dreaming or this is a reality created by a higher being such as God or aliens!
Either anything is possible and we must always remember that.


"Anything is Possible when you think illogically."

1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

quote:
You go with perceived experience like if you stick your hand in a fire you will be burned everytime.
Logical Sense.


Experience. But see I know from my experience that God is alive. I know He is with me and I can see the difference He makes in my life. This is all experience based.

Anything is not possible because that would mean that we could be alive and dead at the same time. We could be starving and full. Sleeping and awake.


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

276 Posts / 38M
     :   21yrs   :  
Zato

You should no this better than me Christian!
What is that verse? I think it is in Matthew.
"With God all things are possible."
lol... Anyways just because it is illogical doesn't mean it is impossible. Who decides these things?


"Anything is Possible when you think illogically."

276 Posts / 38M
     :   21yrs   :  
Zato

The very concept of God is illogical yet you believe in Him!


"Anything is Possible when you think illogically."

1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

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"With God all things are possible."


With God all things are possible but not with man. So you claim to believe in the illogical and you mock me for being irrational?


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

276 Posts / 38M
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Zato

whoa! I wasn't mocking you sir!
When have I mocked you?


"Anything is Possible when you think illogically."

276 Posts / 38M
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Zato

And just because I dont believe in God doesn't mean I can't believe that the illogical is possible. (Just to get that straight)


"Anything is Possible when you think illogically."

1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

Maybe mock wasn't the right word but you seem to think that I do not think rationally about this and yet you claim to hold beliefs that are illogical.


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

276 Posts / 38M
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Zato

Ethereal, my whole point is that by saying "God exist for sure"
is ignorant. Because no one knows this information. But realize that I do not think it is impossible that God exist. But no one knows for sure! To know for a fact is to not be able to doubt such things! I just try my best to make sense of things but in the back of my head I can't forget that the illogical is possible. But since I am still quite young I am still learning how to believe in what I think and learn from what I screw up. I never meant to mock you and I wish only the best for you and everyone else.
Much <3


"Anything is Possible when you think illogically."

1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

But the same experience that teaches you that misused fire can cause injury is the experience that I have about God's reality. I may be wrong, but I choose to life as though I'm right because it accomplishes things. My faith makes me who I am and people like me because I am honest, reliable and hardworking.


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

276 Posts / 38M
     :   21yrs   :  
Zato

Faith is not needed though to know that the fire will burn you.
Because God does not manifest physically faith is required.
Faith is not factual.
But many claim it as fact.
ie... God Exist for sure.
Which cannot be proven with factual evidence.
Although it is still possible that God exist.
Hence why I am not athiest or thiest.


"Anything is Possible when you think illogically."

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