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2848 Posts / 94M
     :   28yrs   :  
Decius

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As a Re-born Christian, I agree that because the bible is the word of God because it can't be proven wrong.

And in MY version, there is something on the back written in a language I don't understand. It might be scribbles, but I'm certain God wrote it just to me.

And it says "Ethereal is a stupid moronic troll."

I always thought you were a stupid troll. And even though I enjoy the information God gave me, I'm very certain that I did not make it up because... well... you can't prove me wrong.

What's a moronic idiotic fool like you doing in a forum like this?


"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

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And in MY version, there is something on the back written in a language I don't understand. It might be scribbles, but I'm certain God wrote it just to me


God wouldn't say that to you and not me. And your arguement is that of a person who murders and then insists that God told him to. God doesn't do things to make people hate other people or to give people reason to feel superior over another.

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you can't prove me wrong.


You're right because you're a closed minded person who will not bother to accept any evidence that goes against what you currently believe


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

276 Posts / 38M
     :   21yrs   :  
Zato

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Sure you can. Many people have already done that. What people lack is the connection to God. The Bible is not true because it claimed to be 2000 years ago. The Bible is true because the author of it is still alive and has told me and many others that this is the case. I expect much ridicule for this statement but I know that it is only because those who find it laughable have never experienced it.


You know.. there are people out there that have been told to murder their own children by God supposedly.
Its called Insanity. Although a strong belief in anything may influence you to think that God tells you things. Im sure their are many Islamics who have heard the words of their own God also. I think it is all just a bunch of Bullshit.

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How seriously have you examined these contradictions? Most are not actually contradictions at all but rather misquoted or out of context information.


Im no scholar but I have done alot of homework over the last few years in debates with my local churches that I used to attend. I told just Google is and you will find contradictions. I can vouch that there are quite a few contradiction that are missinterpreted which directly corresponds to decius idea on the Bible. But there are alot that I have asked about through the church. One day I went up to the pastor with a packets of 100's of contradictions and they took it and said they would get back to me on it. Later I found out they were thrown away because "They didn't want any trouble."
Im not going to sit here and look them up for you simply because I think I would rather die than try. But you can go over them yourself they are not hard to find at all.

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Whos says you cannot prove Bhuddism or another religion false?


I guarantee that you can't. Just like you can't prove God does or doesn't exist.


"Anything is Possible when you think illogically."

276 Posts / 38M
     :   21yrs   :  
Zato

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You're right because you're a closed minded person who will not bother to accept any evidence that goes against what you currently believe


If anyone is close minded here it is you.
And what evidence would that be exactly?


"Anything is Possible when you think illogically."

1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

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You know.. there are people out there that have been told to murder their own children by God supposedly.


God doesn't tell people to murder eachother. People are just too afraid to take responsibility for their actions and will say "God told me to" or "the Devil made me do it".

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Im sure their are many Islamics who have heard the words of their own God also.


But do they know who their god is?

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I guarantee that you can't. Just like you can't prove God does or doesn't exist.


I cannot prove that God exists but He can. Believe me I wish it was a simple matter to just perform a miracle or two. But you choose not to find God and so you don't. If you were open to His existence then you would find out for sure.

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If anyone is close minded here it is you.


How so? I challenge you to give me reason to doubt my beliefs. Decius on the other hand just mocks me and assumes that he is right because he said so.


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

1687 Posts / 40M
     :   20yrs   :  
awakendwraith

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If you were open to His existence then you would find out for sure.

that he isnt real


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

276 Posts / 38M
     :   21yrs   :  
Zato

Now ethereal lets think logically for a second here ok?

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God doesn't tell people to murder eachother. People are just too afraid to take responsibility for their actions and will say "God told me to" or "the Devil made me do it".


You cannot prove that God doesn't say these things.
Of course your statement COULD be true, BUT so could mine.

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But do they know who their god is?


Sure they do. Alah, Buddha.. etc.. Even if they didn't know exactly WHO their God was doesn't make it impossible for them to hear the words of their God.

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I cannot prove that God exists but He can. Believe me I wish it was a simple matter to just perform a miracle or two. But you choose not to find God and so you don't. If you were open to His existence then you would find out for sure.


This one is a little tricky. I know you can't thats why I challenged you. If God is real then he could but he doesn't leaving us in the rain. I CHOOSE not to believe in anyone thing because anything could be possible. I was open to him my entire childhood and nothing. And by the way it is impossible to "know for sure" that God exist.

What I said:
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If anyone is close minded here it is you.


When I say closed minded I mean to the possibility of anything. If you conform to the limited belief of only one thing then no longer can you Believe in anything and be open to everything.


"Anything is Possible when you think illogically."

1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

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You cannot prove that God doesn't say these things.
Of course your statement COULD be true, BUT so could mine.


Sure I can. God doesn't want us to destroy eachother plain and simple why then would He tell us to do something He doesn't want us to do?

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Sure they do. Alah, Buddha.. etc.. Even if they didn't know exactly WHO their God was doesn't make it impossible for them to hear the words of their God.


But who says the words makes all the difference. Satan controls all religions except Christianity.

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I know you can't thats why I challenged you. If God is real then he could but he doesn't leaving us in the rain. I CHOOSE not to believe in anyone thing because anything could be possible. I was open to him my entire childhood and nothing.


But God does show us. And if you don't think so then you are not open to all possibilites.

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When I say closed minded I mean to the possibility of anything. If you conform to the limited belief of only one thing then no longer can you Believe in anything and be open to everything.


Yes. What of it. I belief that I am a male and I am not open to the possibility of being a woman.


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

1687 Posts / 40M
     :   20yrs   :  
awakendwraith

and that is a problem. you must realize that you don't KNOW anything. anything at all. you must also realize that anything, and i mean anything, is possible, because you could be ebing lied to. for your whole life everyone in this world could be lying to you. this could all be a big game show. you dont fucking know. you very well could be the scientific definition of a woman. you dont know.


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

276 Posts / 38M
     :   21yrs   :  
Zato

Wow..

What I said:

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You cannot prove that God doesn't say these things.
Of course your statement COULD be true, BUT so could mine.


What you said:
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Sure I can.

Then do it.

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But who says the words makes all the difference. Satan controls all religions except Christianity.

Exactly why you are closed minded. CAN YOU "PROVE" SATAN CONTROLS ALL OTHER RELIGIONS!? NO YOU CAN'T!

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But God does show us.

Oh really? If God showed humanity PROOF of his existence then we would not be debating about this.

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Yes. What of it. I belief that I am a male and I am not open to the possibility of being a woman.


Im referring to believing...............................................
Being a woman is quite different than a Belief in God.


"Anything is Possible when you think illogically."

276 Posts / 38M
     :   21yrs   :  
Zato

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and that is a problem. you must realize that you don't KNOW anything. anything at all. you must also realize that anything, and i mean anything, is possible, because you could be ebing lied to. for your whole life everyone in this world could be lying to you. this could all be a big game show. you dont fucking know. you very well could be the scientific definition of a woman. you dont know.


Exactly.


"Anything is Possible when you think illogically."

1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

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and that is a problem. you must realize that you don't KNOW anything. anything at all. you must also realize that anything, and i mean anything, is possible, because you could be ebing lied to. for your whole life everyone in this world could be lying to you. this could all be a big game show. you dont fucking know. you very well could be the scientific definition of a woman. you dont know.



If nothing can be known then why do you look down on "ignorant" people? If nobody really knows anything why bother with education? You don't know that nothing can really be known.


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

1687 Posts / 40M
     :   20yrs   :  
awakendwraith

i , we, bother because it is fun. i dont look down on ignorant people just people that dont know they are.


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

What's fun about trying to pretend we know something?


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

276 Posts / 38M
     :   21yrs   :  
Zato

For me, I just live my life by what feels most real and what makes the most sense to me.
Ignorance is Bliss.
I don't look down on anyone.
I just wish they could understand my point of view.
If they can't then ok.
If you have faith and believe in God and you are happy I am happy for you because you have done something I can't.
Be happy.
Much <3


"Anything is Possible when you think illogically."

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