commandments

Violence is a FINAL solution it is not to be used first, even in the face of violence.

"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

forgive my lack of clarity ethereal, i was addressing takemeser

"\WHEN YOU CANGE THE WAY YOU LOOK AT THINGS THE THINGS YOU LOOK AT CHANGE"

Why does anyone have to die? Etherealthemeekle says it's because of Adam and Eve, but I don't believe that sexist tale of bullshit. You're going to have to ponder that one alone or ask God, if you believe in God.

There is no such thing as justified murder if you're a Christian. They tried to feed me that crap in Catholic school. "Thou shalt not kill", "Turn the other cheek", "do another others as you would have done unto thyself", "let the first who has not sin cast the first stone", etc, all those quotes prove that Jesus was a pacifist. Murder is NEVER EVER justified, whether it's a final solution or not.

"If home is where the heart is, then I got evicted this week (Johnny Hobo and the Freight Trains)"

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Murder is NEVER EVER justified,

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

Yes, but there was not death in the beginning. You commented about this in the "devoted Christian" thread. You said that since Adam and Eve betrayed God then humanity's punishment was death.

Murder is knowledgable and willfull killing. I can understand how accidental death is purely accidental, and not the accidental killer's fault, but killing the man who wishes to murder your friend is still murder since you willingly chose to kill him.

"If home is where the heart is, then I got evicted this week (Johnny Hobo and the Freight Trains)"

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Murder is knowledgable and willfull killing

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You said that since Adam and Eve betrayed God then humanity's punishment was death.

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

Killing in self defense is murder and it goes against the teachings of Jesus. Jesus said to turn the other cheek and do good to those who hurt you.

"If home is where the heart is, then I got evicted this week (Johnny Hobo and the Freight Trains)"

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Killing in self defense is murder and it goes against the teachings of Jesus. Jesus said to turn the other cheek and do good to those who hurt you.

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

pete smith you said



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The question would be why you didnt sort the problem out at the time.
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Well i actually tried sorting out the problem but no matter how nice i was to the cafeteria cashier, how persistent and even angry i got didn't seem to matter to her she didnt believe that i gave her a 10..

so you see she didnt trust me and thats why i had to take it into my hands... and try to justify myself for the loss of my own money the next day by stealing lunch


cause technically i already paid for it but, nobody would listen or believe me

""That's only the tip of the iceberg.""

But taking matters into your own hands just makes you a vigilante and no better than a bully

"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

what does a bully have to do with this

""That's only the tip of the iceberg.""

But taking matters into your own hands just makes you a vigilante and no better than a bully

"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

When did vigilantes become bullies?

"If home is where the heart is, then I got evicted this week (Johnny Hobo and the Freight Trains)"

Vigilantes have no legal authority for their activity and often become self interest groups just like bullies

"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"
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I think you mean militia groups, like in the northern midwest. Vigilantes are just people who take the law into their own hands. Sometimes that's bad, but sometimes it's good and just. For instance, say a thief steals an old lady's purse. The person who tackled the thief to get the purse back would be a vigilante.

"If home is where the heart is, then I got evicted this week (Johnny Hobo and the Freight Trains)"