Fake?

I thoroughly dissagree that you cannot see whether someone is being fake or not.

You can't KNOW for sure, but the certainty in most cases is like 95%.

If you find it very difficult to empathize with someone, or they act in ways that are not consistent emotionally, there are good chances that they are being fake.

This really isn't a difficult question.

Hypocrisy is as widespread as insecurity... and to see how widespread insecurity is, see how secure our pop idols come off as, not to mention our leaders.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

there are not much people in this world who are honest. most of the people acting fake in diffrent situations.and the reason that people being fake is eitherl for self-interest or probably for survivng a certain situation.i think to avoid being fake you need to have a very strong faith and morals.but it would still be hard to be toatally honest because we live in a sort of world that is mostly become fake.the conclusion in my opinion is if we try to be 50% honest that means we are not fake

...but 50% fake too?

"Crap. I lost my watch, now I'm lost in time."

Even if we can perceive the person correctly still doesn't mean they're fake.. only that we understand their true intentions.

there is no fake..

""That's only the tip of the iceberg.""

I think that there is fake to a certain extent. Like theres real gold and fool's gold.

"Crap. I lost my watch, now I'm lost in time."

fools gold is real, like anything that exists whihc you can call faek, to be real and fake is a contradiction... if your not being honest with "your" "true" intentions and express differnt motives thats not fake at all thats real.. real fake.. avtually not even fake your eally wanted to express another motive so that was your motive too its judt complex as "you' are not one sided uinless of course there is that distnct seperate 'soul
you i thingg HOLAA!!!

"no quote until i copyright it.."

thank you patape.. thank god.. someone understands.. wandering not to be rude but please say some more intelligent things..

decius you state yourself well but try to understand my theory that there is no fake.. HOWEVER you act you are being real..no matter what

""That's only the tip of the iceberg.""

Analytical: I think you fail to see the mergence between reality and idealism. Wandering's original question was not intended to be abstract, according to me. What you speak of is an abstract concept, wherein everyone acts in a way that is in tune with the conditioning they have received along with their intentions. So in essence, they are always acting in the exact way they are supposed to, which makes their actions "real".

What you speak of is a philosophical "real", whereas I am talking about a psychological "real". And in the psychological arena, 95% of the people you encounter in your life are psychologically fake. What I mean by that is the way they dress, the way they talk, the way they smell, look, and often think is a conditioned response which results from their innadequacies compensated. This most definitely has nothing to do with what desires and intentions are truly in their hearts, and in this respect they are "fake".

The philosophical question of whether you are acting in a way that is "real" or not is not relevent or even important, because it seems pretty obvious to me.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

Alright decius I agree, but isn't this topic about philosophy?

""That's only the tip of the iceberg.""

lol... yes.

But I think philosophy is very closely linked to human psychology in many aspects.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

That's true, touche..

""That's only the tip of the iceberg.""

true.. theres the distinction.. but actually even tho you tried to ecplain it im not sure where that distinction may be (maybe by analyzing in myself sorta).. but saying that dressing a certain wasy can be psyhcologically fake.. i think i can still argue that your just calling it fake casue its new or soon after a transition.. but the way you drssed or behaved before was once a transition to.. just another way to get used to.. it only seems psychologically fake when its new.. maybe inside you dont feel like its you.. but then neither is any other personalyity or dress you wee used to before becasue that was alos at one time a new thing that you had to adjust to.. therefore maybeall outside charcterisitcs (invlved with some inside brain activity obviously) can be consideerd psych fake.. but do you think then that there is a "soul" id never use that ord but to relate to most people ill use it.. thats distinct like a self thats unchanging..(maye i asjed this before) if so just iagnore it.. probly well.. hmm

"no quote until i copyright it.."

I think I see your point?
We all seem to have certain values to which we try to hold true too.
Saying you to yourself, that I would never do but somewhere along the way you do!
Liked your comment Decius.

"Terrorist or tyrant, few may come to the Truth that both are poor choice."
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