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Ironwood

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http://tvset.org/mp3/soldier's%20pay.wmv

Some testimony from soldiers, film

http://play.rbn.com/?url=ap/cadiu/g2demand/1208Rumsfeld_SS.rm&proto
=rtsp&mode=compact


http://65.110.88.114/images/FE/chain154siteType6/site105/client/pbs_now
_murphy.wmv

http://69.31.93.156/NotThere.mov

http://www.thegroundtruth.org/video/video8.mov

http://indybay.org/uploads/badtriptoedgewood.rm


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"
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4073 Posts / 53M
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Ironwood

Marine Would Rather Die Than Go Back To Iraq

Cop, Gunman Dead

"Police also released the liquor store video tape. De Werk said he wanted the public to see the tape so they could understand not only what happened but "what's really going on in the world.""

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2005/110105ratherdie.htm



"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"
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4073 Posts / 53M
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Ironwood

Iraqi Victim Says U.S. Torture Worse Than Saddam

....who was sent to Abu Ghraib accused of car theft

(car theft = terrorism?)

http://reuters.myway.com/article/20050111/2005-01-11T231117Z_01_N113103
56_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-IRAQ-ABUSE-DC.html


Since the scandal erupted last year, the Bush administration has blamed it on a small group of soldiers.

But investigations have shown many prisoners in Iraq, Afghanistan and at the U.S. Navy base at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba also suffered abusive treatment after the government looked at ways to obtain more information in its war against terrorism.
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Bush administrastion blames troops, nice, send our kids into fucked up situations, tell them to torture people, then blame them for it too.

Anyone who thinks no Officers and commands were involved in this, doesn't understand the military, sure people can do some crazy shit without or against orders, and MAYBE (depending on circumstances) not have anyone know about it, but systematic and identical torture in various facilities, give me a break.

And the main reason officers would do it, the same reason as the soldiers, orders from above.

Thats just the name of the game. If it had been a freak and isolated incedent, that would be different. But that simply is not the case.

Soldiers perform torture worse than Saddam, and low ranking soldiers get the blame. Well, I'm guessing Saddam may have done some torture first hand at some point or other, propaganda would suggest such, but I guarantee most were by orders.

Hmmmm.....

Where does that leave Bush. Wake up and smell the blood urine and feces of the beaten already.


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"
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Ironwood

Here is some more info on the suicide by cop by one of our poor brave kids sent to hell and back, who unfortunately took a bad route for everyone involved.

Its one thing to make a cop kill you, but we don't need to be killing the cops too.

http://infowars.com/articles/iraq/marine_commits_suicide_by_cop.htm


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

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Ironwood

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4187583.stm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/gall/0,8542,1393803,00.html


These are pictures from a British court martial that is kind of confusing me. I knew it was retarded when claims were made of soldier's abusing detainees without any knowledge or orders from superiors especially when it was happening the exact same way in multiple facilities, but I wasn't aware of this british element.

Notice the near identical pictures from our own court martial and the brits. What people need to understand is that this isn't some random act by low ranking soldiers, its torture and designed psychological warfare. Degrading sexual simulations etc. Torture that is on the news being debated and and accepted.

And yet they still try to claim no knowledge of this behavior past a shocking revelation of independant soldier abuse?

What fucking sense does any of that make?

And now low ranking soldiers are supposedly going to prison over this.

Wake up the sheeple, the wolves are coming.


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

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Ironwood

Abuse of Iraqi civilians by soldiers was not confined to one camp, says colonel

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/legal/story.jsp?story=602616


Well gee, I think even Scooby Doo could piece this puzzle together.

I thought it was obvious once they mentioned the possible torture tactics to include degrading sexual scenarios, especially for the religiously devout. But I guess that's just me, but I'm guessing Fox News may have missed that part too, could be wrong, wouldn't be a first.


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

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Ironwood

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/05/middle_east_shoo
ting_in_tal_afar/html/1.stm


US Troops Shoot Mother In Front Of Children


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

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Ironwood

American Justice: Pictures of An Iraqi Arrested And Executed

http://infowars.net/Pages/Jan05/220105_Justice.html


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

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Ironwood

Why U.S. Media Dismissed the Lancet Study of 100,000 Iraqi Civilian Dead

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0127-23.htm


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

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Ironwood

Soldier tells of UK 'war crimes'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4226335.stm


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

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Ironwood

Fallujah in Pictures

http://airamericaradio.com/shows/randirhodes/fallujah/crisis/criinfal/2
005/01/fal1.htm


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

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Ironwood

Marine suicides increasing

http://interestalert.com/brand/siteia.shtml?Story=st/sn/02250000aaa0580
a.upi&Sys=siteia&Fid=FRONTPAG&Type=News&Filter=Front%20Pa
ge


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

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Angelfire

This is a really good set of videos. I'm downloading loads of these making my own collection


"Durch Nacht und Blut das Licht"

4073 Posts / 53M
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Ironwood

Propaganda

http://movies.internetvetsfortruth.org/misc/rnc-platform.mov


I've posted this somewhere before, but its just too much to remember

"Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death." --Adolf Hitler


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

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Ironwood

Iraqi “Ministry of Health” Accuses America of Banned Weapons Use in Fallujah

http://www.jihadunspun.com/intheatre_internal.php?article=101819&li
st=/home.php&
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"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

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