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Bush Presidency a Budding Criminal Dictatorship? - Page 2

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 46yrs • M
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 46yrs • M
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I found this and looking around thought it would be best placed here.
By the way, I really do enjoy the song. As a song it really has a great tune, I just wish it was true.
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 46yrs • M
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War Crime Admission

The failure to prosecute for these crimes will be our crime.
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As kids we take for granted what are ancestors fought for. The monsters in society will just slowly creep their way in our lives, as our generation doesn't have the experience of recognising these people, we will do nothing until things get very bad for every one.

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 76yrs • M •
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The worst president in the US. How could he be selected to be at that chair twice? Because the Inside Group control media and intelligence and manipulate the election. They need an obidient puppet work for their interest whom neglect all moral standard, the Constitution and the law.

Quote, "Bush's Final Approval Rating: 22 Percent

Jan. 16, 2009

Jan. 16, 2009(CBS) President Bush will leave office as one of the most unpopular departing presidents in history, according to a new CBS News/New York Times poll showing Mr. Bush's final approval rating at 22 percent.

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Quote, "Bush rated at the bottom of US presidents
Mon, 16 Feb 2009 05:20:20 GMT

Last November, in a poll conducted by CNN some 76% of respondents disapproved of Bush's job in the Oval Office.

"No other president's disapproval rating has gone higher than 70%. Bush has managed to do that three times so far this year," according to CNN polling director Keating Holland.

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Incredible New Poll: 90% Want Bush Crimes Investigation

Posted by Beau Friedlander, February 23

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The End of America Outlines Path From Freedom To Dictatorship - Compares George Bush To Adolf Hitler
Naomi Wolf -
March 4, 2009

Although many people compared President Bush and his policies with the actions of Adolph Hitler in Nazi Germany, few were able to itemize the process of converting a free society into a dictatorship like Naomi Wolf in her book and movie titled 'The End of America'.

Naomi outlined what President Bush did in his two terms and illustrated the parallels to Germany, Italy and Russia during the 1930s, and Chile during the 1970s. She says there are ten steps to removing freedom from a society.

The great dictators learned from one another on how to close down a society. There were 10 steps taken. Naomi Wolf studied the Pinochet regime 1973. Over the past 8 years, Naomi says that a small group of people set out to undermine the U.S. constitution.

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Germany would not have looked much different from the US today. Germany in 1931 had human rights and gay rights organizations. They were relatively free.

Heimat (Homeland) became a popular phrase in discourse within Germany during the 1930s. The Nazis used the historic term, first patriotically but later nationalistically. They employed Heimat to convince their citizens that anything foreign was bad. Soon after September 11th 2001, the government used the term in the newly created mega-agency called 'Homeland Security'.

Wolf lays out ten steps necessary to convert a free society to a dictatorship.

1) Invoke an internal and external threat - The Bush Administration used a terrible crime against our nation after 9-11 to launch a 'war on terror'. Other countries hit by terrorists went after the bad guys without destroying their own liberty. The government created the Dept of Homeland security to manipulate our levels of fear. Israel does not make some days orange and some days red. They take pride in not trying to frighten their citizens.

In Berlin in 1933 the Reichstag (German parliament) was set on fire by an arsonist. The Nazis used that event to subvert the German constitution. They passed Clause 2 of the Enabling Acts that basically gave Hitler dictatorial power. The state could open the mail and listen to phone calls. Parliament gave up their power. In 2001 the Bush Administration pushed through the Patriot Act. This gave the government power to wiretap without a warrant among other things.

2) Secret Prisons where Torture takes place - Both Hitler and the Bush Administration called torture the same thing - 'enhanced interrogation'. They needed prisons outside the rule of law. Wolf said the U.S. government put electrodes on genitals, hung prisoners by their hands, exposed them to heat and cold over and over again, among other things.

The administration said they tortured people because it was necessary to save American lives. Military Order number one stated that the President can pick up any non-citizen anywhere in the world that he thinks is a terrorist. In 2002 John Yoo, a member of Bush's legal council, wrote a memo that narrowly redefined torture. Severe suffering had to be inflicted with specific intent, according to Yoo. There were 16 approved methods of interrogation. Rumsfeld expanded that to 35.

Wolf says we should care if brown people with Muslim names are tortured. In 1931-32 torture was still illegal in Germany, but the SA would drag people out of their homes and put them in torture chambers. They also called it 'enhanced interrogation'. Bush stated that the Geneva Convention does not apply to our detainees.

Retired General James Cullen, Chief Judge of the U.S. Army, said 'This is not the last war... What we do today is creating a precedent as to how American prisoner of wars who are not yet born will be treated in the future.'

In 2006 Congress passed the Military Commissions Act (HR-6166) which stripped prisoners of any rights. Prisoners can now be held indefinitely without a trial. This is modeled after Hitler's People's Court - you can be tried without anyone knowing it. A US citizen could also be defined as an enemy combatant.

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3) Paramilitary Force - Hitler had his brown shirts, and the US has Blackwater. These groups can act outside the Constitution because they are not government agencies.

The Eric Prince family has contributed 2.4 million to Republican Party. Naomi says Blackwater picked torturers and killers from other countries to fight for the US. Naomi says that the government started protecting agents who were accused of murder.

Wolf considers Blackwater a 'stealth threat'. Mussolini started using soldiers who came back from war to beat up his own people. His Black Shirts were outside the rule of law. Blackwater has been used in the US during the Katrina disaster. Armed to the teeth, they drove up and down the streets in New Orleans. Jeremy Scahill, author of 'Blackwater', saw contractors shoot at civilians.

Naomi Wolf - The End of America Outlines Path From Freedom To Dictatorship - Compares George Bush To Adolf Hitler

Naomi said the Blackwater website stated they hope to focus on protests in the United States (like Manhattan NY). There is a concern that there may be civil unrest if the U.S. economy falls apart.

4) Survail ordinary citizens - Germany kept lists of their citizens. It is a way to keep people in order. You are afraid you might get on the list so you don't speak up. Hitler developed lists of the Jews so they could quickly round them up.

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Later Stasi files were used in East Germany. Every society keeps a list before they remove freedom. You want to make everyone fearful of speaking out.

In the US normal people can get on a 'watch list'. The boarding passes will have a SSSS on it. Naomi Wolf has this on her boarding pass and she is always taken away from the line and searched separately.

There are one million people on the list including Edward Kennedy and Nelson Mandela. Many outspoken Americans get on the list. Drew Griffin of CNN was on the list. After one person gets on the list, everyone in the family gets on the watch list.

5) Infiltrate Citizens Groups - The ACLU has received many complaints of government agents infiltrating citizen groups. In 2004 police and FBI agents spied on citizens who protested the war. Undercover state police officers infiltrated various groups including anti-death penalty assemblies.

David Zirin said one informant was named Lucy. He questions whether this is a good way to spend taxpayer money. Wolf says they may send agents into groups to disrupt them.

6) Detain and Release Ordinary Citizens - The Nazis did this at random to keep people in line. This happened to James Yee. He was while returning from service in Guantanamo. He had printed articles from the Internet and was accused of being a terrorist spy. Yee was held in solitary confinement for 76 days. Now every time he crosses a border the government detains him.

Nazi Books

Yee was held in Charleston South Carolina where other US enemy combatants are held. This is commonly done to Muslims today. The Nazis began to detain people arbitrarily before they focused on Jews and Gypsies.

7) Target Key Individuals - Similar to book burnings in Germany, The Dixie Chicks were banned by Clear Channel. People began burning their CDS. Members of the popular country group said they were embarrassed that President Bush was from Texas.

CIA agent Valarie Plame was singled out too. Joe Wilson said the Bush Administration exposed his wife to cover up government lies. Later Plame said she noticed that bolts holding her backyard deck up were loosened.

In 1938 Joseph Goebbels targeted key individuals. Goebbels also burned books.

8) Restrict the Press - The Bush Administration targeted the New York Times. 'There is no excuse for Newspapers to print it,' President said. They wanted to prosecute reporters under the Espionage Act.

Bilal Hussein was an AP photographer in Iraq. He was arrested by the U.S. military and imprisoned for possessing bomb parts. He was later released for lack of evidence. There are still political questions raised about his arrest.

Josh Wolf was imprisoned in the United States. After a San Francisco Bay area protest, he spent 226 days in jail because he refused to give his tapes to investigators (see video below). His sentence was longer than any other journalist in US history. Wolf says the government wanted to know who was protesting the government.

Stalin Books

Stalin trampled on the rights of the press and even executed a journalist.

9) Recast Criticism as Espionage and Dissent as Treason - Amy Goodman of Democracy Now was arrested at the Republican Convention. Dozens of reporters were arrested at that political event. Even people who were not protesting at a nearby park were arrested. Police seized all videos at the park except one that was hidden.

The Patriot Act of 2001 may redefine protest as treason. The espionage act can be used to send people away for 10 years, and if you are convicted of treason the defendant can be executed. HR 1955 didn't pass but it could make speeches against the law.

10) Subvert the Rule of Law - In an investigation by the House of Representatives Judiciary Committee, Harriet Miers and Josh Bolten ignored subpoenas. The House wanted to find out if the Whitehouse wanted to replace all of the US Attorneys. Miers and Bolton blatantly ignored the rule of law.

The President also subverted the law with signing statements. These signing statements changed the intent of the law. President Bush did it 110 times to challenge 750 laws passed by Congress.

Joseph Goebbels purged all of the state attorneys in 1933. Mussolini ignored parliament. Wolf says ignoring the law is the final step before transitioning to a dictatorship.

Benito Mussolini Books

Naomi Wolf says this is the last stage before declaring martial law. Beginning October 1st 2008, the army began planning to station an active unit inside the United States to serve as an 'on call' response to an active emergency. Some 3,000 to 4,000 soldiers will appear on the streets for crowd control and maintain public order.

The American Freedom Agenda

The National Socialists (Nazis) began unloading their war dead off of trains in the middle of the night so no one could see the casualties. Bush didn't allow pictures of the coffins coming back from Iraq. President Obama recently overturned this policy.

Wolf recommends all Americans stand up for freedom and join the movement to support the American Freedom Agenda Act. The act will stop torture and rendition. The act would also stop the abuse of the Espionage Act and violations caused by the Patriot Act, like illegal wire taps and the ability of police to break into your home without a warrant.

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No doubt in my mind that the GWB administration was one of the worst
portrayals of governance I have experienced during my lifetime.

It was appalling watching them usurp authority in a way that could have
only been compared with people with administrative powers that dared to
challenge the very core of moral ethics by mangling, or questioning even
the statutes of our constitution, which in turn, revealed just how incompetent they were.

Nothing was ever what they claimed it to be. When forced to face up
to the actual facts, they sought to discredit either the media, or dissidents among the public, and all too often tried to distract by accusing the oppositional party of starting false rumors to prevent
progress. It was progress alright, it was in motion by the week in a
somewhat retrograde wise manner, which Donald Rumsfeld, with his consistent but cloudy, euphemistic manner, would refer to those conditions as "the knowns" and "the unknowns" to cover his butt.

Once GWB got the bug, that HE WAS THE ABSOLUTE DECIDER ...
(everybody beneath him had to bend deeply from the waist) and threw
rationale out the window, and concentrated on managing (wrecking)
the country from within his inner circle, while attracting people to his side
that would be helpful in changing laws he did not like, whether they
worked out fine for the past two hundred years or so, made no difference - he wanted a new concept - an empire without whistle
blowers. A concept where major blunders would be seen merely as
"small disappointments" or setbacks - nothing for people to hit the
streets by the thousands to protest about, after all, THE DECIDER
has at all times everyone`s best interest in mind (after he pockets the

To ask ourselves whether or not the GWB presidency was a budding
criminal dictatorship could most likely be answered with the question -

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