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 45yrs • M
A CTL of 1 means that Ironwood is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
The dollar is on the verge of collapse, america is facing its greatest economic disaster since the great depression, and you are calling it stable?

Fascinating.

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"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"
 35yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Jacker_Jones is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
The dollar is on the verge of collapse???? What does that even mean????

Blame the greedy bankers, giving mortgages to people who simply could not afford them. The system works fine as long as people don't get too greedy.

I guess the one dollar would initially have interest on it and then later it would have inflation.

But technically money is not really worth anything. Its essentially paper but the only reason it has value is that it is a medium of exchange. The fact that people will accept this money is that they know they can take that money and give it to someone else for something else. Really it is just a system to exchange goods faster. Our well being is really given to this system otherwise we would live in a barter economy!

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"I love to see people struggling for their purpose in life..."
 45yrs • M
A CTL of 1 means that Ironwood is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
The collapse of the dollar can be defined many ways. but the most important being its sheer worth within the national and global economy.

From the decline as the oil reserve standard, to the loss of debt purchasers such as china, and general dollar dumping in global reserves, plus the increased borrowing from the fed/dollar creation/inflation is culminating into potential hyperinflation and complete degredation of the dollar.

Total meltdown.

This on top of the complete loss, outsourcing, and general downgrading of the US job market equals severe calamity.

Have you not read that the world power brokers are attempting to replace the dollar and many other currencies with more globalized ones?

Of course the problems are because of abuse of the systems, including specific aspects of the systems designed for covert abuse.

Thats the whole point.

The bankers, especially the central bankers, have too much power and are allowed to much secret use of this power along with personal agendas of greed that are not working for the good of the people. And there is corporate and government collusion all through out as half of the main players have revolving seats in all factions.

The other half of this coin, as usual, being the ignorance or corruption of the people that allow and perpetuate the problem. By giving up their FREEDOM to have the rightful power to be educated about it and in a posistion to stop it in hopes of SECURITY that the smartest man in the room will take care of everything.

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"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"
 35yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Jacker_Jones is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
The collapse of the dollar would be a good thing. Net exports will rise in that now your goods will be cheaper and imports will fall because goods are now more expensive. This will create jobs! China is artificially keeping the dollar high by buying government US bonds so that it does not hurt their exports.

Hyperinflation is a rare possibility. Very unlikely, that is what happens in third world countries like Zimbabwe. Inflation may rise to like 8% or 10% to pay the debt but no where near to like 100% which is defined as hyper inflation. Remember national debt is measured in terms of percentage of GDP. Countries like japan have much higher debts at 200% of GDP. The national debt is not a big issue.

Labour in the US has actually increased for skilled labour. Unfortunately anyone who is considered not skilled will probably lose their job or work at taco bell.

I'm not familiar with the oil reserve standard so send me some links, I have no idea what that is.

The power of not using the central bank is what lead to the great depression. Even if the power of central bankers is great unfortunately not having them is a greater evil.

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"I love to see people struggling for their purpose in life..."
 45yrs • M
A CTL of 1 means that Ironwood is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Most of that is true, but comes at a taxing transistion, but there are a few key points of perspective that I disagree with.

The great depression argument you made is highly inaccurate. Our federal reserve was established in 1913 as the second attempt at an american central bank after the first was diligently headed off by andrew jackson who has on his grave to this day the omage "I killed the bank"

The reason why this was and is an issue is that it has been known for quite some time by those not indoctrinated by schools of propaganda that lead to your posistion.

Central banks, though capable of providing stability have continually been used to oppress and systematically consolodate wealth and power by manufactured booms and busts, including the great depression.

The argument very much exists that the great depression was purposefully engineered, presidents, economists, senators, congressman etc. including central bankers guilty of it, who weren't completely ingorant of the circumstances have put their argument on record.

The problem is this perspective is not even allowed proper discussion in general academic circles other than as an example of paranoid delusional conspiracy theory to deride.

But Americans have a unique and more recent history that helps expose the issue as our country and independence was founded on breaking, primarily, from oppressive taxation and monetary manipulation by the british government and its central bank.

Though this point as well is also not expressly covered in even our own school system, it is there and can be found, the fact that it isn't properly covered is another issue.

Of course you are taught that your money system is best controlled by bankers, it was these same banking dynasties that forged our public education systems.

You may not know it but in America there was a congressional investigation of the rockefeller, carnagie, and such foundations during the time of the world wars that found, by being allowed to review their own recorded minutes of meetings, that they purposely intended to fund and found public education to break up families and indoctrinate the masses to their agenda of socialism and perpetual war for profit.

The lady given access to the minutes went insane once exposed to the reality and breadth of the conspiracy.

Just as the later investigation and exposure of the fascist plot to kill the president and overthrow the government by corporate and banking tycoons.

The point being again that a system without corruption and greed are obviously not dangerous, but none of your arguments take into account the systemic corruption and greed that exist and have the world over forever.

There is a naive posistion by many modern westerners that freedom is the norm over oppression when the opposite is the obvious case.

And that modern governmental and economical systems are either free from corruption or continually bettering the issue of it.

Again, nowhere near the case.

The pattern of some power structure's attempt to "take over the world" is still in full swing as it always has been.

But this is a point both so basic and yet so complicated and laden with information that I'll have to await more questions or arguments to continue for the moment.

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"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"
 35yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Jacker_Jones is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
I'm not saying conspiracy theories are not always true, quite the contrary. The important thing is evidence. For instance the incident that lead to the Vietnam war is a proven hoax. The U.S. government faked being attacked by Vietnamese's ships to go to war.

Nothing is worse for a politician than a recession. Politicians definitely do not initiate recessions or want them. This would explain fiscal policy. Central bankers won't initiate recessions but they may not prevent them by having say stagflation happen. It's more likely the middle east may purposefully cause recessions by say supply shocks like huge rise in price of oil, for political reasons like say Fuck USA.

However I don't think the Rockafellers are in on world domination, they may be involved but I highly doubt it. I would say the IMF is far more of a government organization used for world domination. Simply through the Washington Consensus allows American and European firms to take what they want. Just the fact that the IMF is international and the central bank is domestic suggests that it is more of a threat.

But, then again has not the world's hegemony always sought after world domination? I would say Britain is definitely guilty of this, but they did it more bluntly through military imperialism. Even Rome thought they had conquered the most valuable land in the world.

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"I love to see people struggling for their purpose in life..."
 45yrs • M
A CTL of 1 means that Ironwood is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
I'd link it for you but can't right now.

Go to google video and search Norman Dodd or Reece Commitee. The facts are in and these are the types of players behind the IMF and World bank anyway.

Politicians and mainstream big name bankers are but rooks to the kings my friend. Those who play the game don't get a say, they do as they're told, if that means sacrifice then they'll either be rewarded by the men behind the curtain or simply left for the sharks.

When you get tossed out of politics only to be handed the keys to haliburton or some other military industrial complex gold mine, it really doesn't matter, or vice versa and suddenly your a horse trainer or something who ends up the head of fema during katrina.

They take care of their own, the true behind the scenes individuals aren't harmed but helped by the boom bust cycle, because they manufacture it, they can always get ahead and play the markets to their benefit, by very covert and convoluted means of course. But its all been proven, they just have the power to keep it surpressed from the mainstream and relegated to the likes of conspiracy theory.

Plenty of congressional hearings and trials have occurred, but underlings are burned, the rest suppressed and then its business as usual.

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"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"
 35yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Jacker_Jones is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
There have been recessions since the industrial revolution. Are you saying that all recessions are caused by people? I tried watching the Norman Dodd video but it is essentially a long old man story haha. Could you sum it up?

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"I love to see people struggling for their purpose in life..."
 45yrs • M
A CTL of 1 means that Ironwood is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Norman dodd was the lead investigator of the Reece committee's congressional investigation of the organisations such as the rockefeller and carnagie foundations.

By a stroke of luck they were given access to the carnagie's own dictated minutes of the meetings from their inception in the very early 1900s.

What was found was direct admission to use the foundation to create a one world socialist government, with a primary goal at the time of merging the us and soviet union.

They discussed and decided that the best way to control and manipulate masses was through war.

To ensure perpetual and controllable war they decided they needed to control the state department and the educational system amongst other key posistions.

They accomplished this through money, power, and influence. Bribes and even breeding politicians and teachers through their grant money that would attract and mold individuals capable of promoting their agendas.

A primary goal was to change how history was taught so as to redirect the focus of freedom and individual empowerment to dependency on the state.

All this and more was established through their own admission and it was all suppressed.

The same thing happened with McCormick Dixteen committees exposure of the plot by the same type of leading tycoons and industrialists, dupont, goodyear, etc, to overthrow the government and institute a fascist dictatorship.

Underlings were burned while main players never touched and everything was suppressed.

To answer your question, yes, it has been cited that the boom bust cycle is a calculated and controlled scientific operation that also incorporates natural events and uses them to their advantage.

I don't think you fully grasp how much wealth, power, and influence is concentrated in a very few hands.

The signifigance of the statistic of some 1% of the population of the world controlling some 90 plus percent of the worlds wealth is lost on many, as well as what such power allows the people to do and get away with, and often even be praised for.

The concept is simple, these are simply elite professionals of world domineering. This is their life, it is what they do. They don't have to worry about bills and day jobs.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and such power always is used to sustain and amass more.

You can find numerous admissions of their intentions and agendas. World government, eugenics, and population reduction.

The only thing that slows them down is internal bickering and the need to finish using the population to build their utopia without awakening them to their own enslavement and impending demise.

Since I can't link anything or post vids right now I'm going to post in a thread of significance to the discussion to revive it and its video link.

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"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"
 75yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that kathaksung is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
The technique has a history older than two decades. I experienced it 18 years ago. I posted to reveal a decade ago. Yet ignorant people don't know they have been under the surveillance of the Feds.

Here is the article I posted 10 years ago.

2. Infra-scanner, surveillance behind wall

I sell porcelain figuring. After a while, there were quite amount of broken one accumulated. That day, I was sticking the broken part back by using a glue gun. I switched on power so glue stick melted, ready for working. While I was doing my work, my tenant came in to get some food in refrigerator.(I rented out two upstairs bedrooms and shared kitchen with my tenants.) When I worked on second lot, he came again. For the third time, he was rushing down. This rose my attention. I noticed it happened just seconds after I switched on the power. It looked like that was the heat touched off his strange behavior. So I did an experiment. I packed up everything, sitting down, switching on the power of glue gun. Within seconds, he reacted as what I expected. He was embarrassed when he found I was smiling at him and explained that he was hungry. I smiling because I had the feeling a scientist had when making a discovery. The agent found the figure in screen had lit something and thought I was smoking marijuana, order my tenant to check. My tenant, knew nothing about infra-scanner, only reported I was repairing porcelain figuring. None of them was aware of it was caused by an electricity heated glue gun.

Several months later, when I repairing another pile of porcelain, same thing happened again. My tenant felt uneasy as I watching him going up and down. That in last rush down he held an underwear high and explained he was going to wash it.

Later in a newspaper article, a lawyer said it was fascist to use infra-scanner in surveillance. So I know the instrument name. And it is so sensitive that they can use it to discover corpse buried under ground from helicopter. (For the corpse which is just died with residual body temperature)

Infra-scanner can be used to watch people behind wall. If it turns on people, then clothes mean nothing. People become nude. The strange thing is,in a country which is so emphasized on privacy, almost nobody mention it. Media rarely talk about it. Most people even don't know it. In San Jose Mercury News,(Feb 21,2001. pg.18A) there's an article: "Lawyer says police use of Thermal Imagine violates reasonable expectation of privacy" As a matter of fact, they use it 10 years ago already according to my experience. Outwardly, U.S. is a democratic country. Inside, it is tightly controlled by secret police. Although you can easily ridicule President, you rarely hear a voice criticize federal law enforcement agency. Waco is a controversial issue. Many people think FBI's action is murder. What's the result? Nobody takes responsibility. People are intimidated.


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 41yrs • F •
vivalaevolution is new to Captain Cynic and has less than 15 posts. New members have certain restrictions and must fill in CAPTCHAs to use various parts of the site.
Lol. I would be afraid some jerk off would make money off of voyeurs who want to gain sexual pleasure off of body scanning.

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