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Did Einstein unknowingly prove life beyond death?!?! This is a theory of everything

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99 Posts / 13M
     :   31yrs   :  
doom123

black gold, genius theory. i suggest you read the book ubik by philip k. dick. he discusses this theory A LOT in this book (ex. companies that harvest your energy in the "off" state and let your loved ones visit you) its really rather funny and interesting. btw the cover just so happens to be my main picture


"if life has no point whats the point in talking about it?"

1 Posts / 4M
     :   21yrs   :  
Soul Prophet

There is a lot of good discussion going on here, but I've got to wonder if there is a sort of human bias to all this. I certainly could be wrong, but (religious views aside) at a fundamental level is there really anything separating us from any of the other reasonably well evolved organisms on this planet - aside from a very advanced brain? Sure we're much more capable than most other organisms, but I think this has led us to construct a whole bunch of misguided beliefs about our superiority; namely, the concept of a soul, of life after death, etc.

No one enjoys the thought that once we pass away we simply cease conciousness, but is there any reason for us to believe otherwise? Surely we don't expect a Chimpanzee to continue living on after death, but because we can conceive of such things and a Chimp can't, we're somehow entitled to an afterlife? Essentially what it boils down to is this; instead of using our time to discuss the afterlife - in the off chance it actually exists - wouldn't our time be better spent making the most of the time we're SURE we have? Just a thought.


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34 Posts / 13M
     :   25yrs   :  
Gabriel23

This is just a theory, I would like a professor in phyics to look at this and see the weak points and the strong points. I think that this theory though, does give explaination to how we could beable to travel to "heaven or hell" Yet, I cannot help but ponder, where else we could go from this theory. In all the universe, there is a infinate amount of space. This theory could explain how people come to our world with extraordinary understanding, have they lived a thousand lives previous, or perhaps have obtained their understanding through experience through out their life time? The question is though, as we would travel from place to place, where would it end? Especially if energy cannot be destroyed. Where is our final resting place? How do we achieve it? I would think of it as a trial of our understanding, of everything. A accumulation of our choices. I look at the world and I see so much negativity. It comes in relationship with our thoughts choices and actions. Math and science looks for relationships. The answer we all seek is far easier to understand than we realize. Bias aside. This is a chance theory, but I've yet to see concrete proof to refute it.


"I never let the negativity of life, dull the beauty in my life."

721 Posts / 23M
     :   35yrs   :  
Sorceress

I'm just wondering soul prophet why it is that people assume animals aren't going to have a soul or experience an afterlife just because they can't talk like us?

Who on Earth knows whether they have a soul or not? But every living thing has experiences. Ok a chimpanzee's experiences are completely different to a human's as is a tree's, but just because we cannot converse with every living thing on this planet and understand their experiences doesn't mean every living thing doesn't have some sort of life-force or soul or universal energy that is going to continue on after its physical reality has decayed.

Just because we have the ability to make our experiences known to others by way of a symbolic representation of our world through language and most other life on this planet doesn't - does not make us superior in my eyes. Human beings have a bit of a God complex I think. OK we can talk and use our apposable thumbs to make tools and reason about our surroundings and make fire that creates technological advancement. We are still living creatures just like all life and in my opion should remember that we all come from the same star dust that formed this solar system. We are related to chimps and trees!


""Each child holds the world in an open hand to mould it into any shape they choose.""

157 Posts / 14M
     :   18yrs   :  
zachfrenzel

Sorceress in my opion the reason most people think that they are suprior to everthing around us is because we are. There is nothing on earth at this moment that has bothered to contest us except each other

Not to say that this attitude is justified we must as a race learn to take this gift in much less stride then we do.

To be quite honest with you they have found ways to communicate with other animials and the only thing that stops them from being on the same level of intelligence as us is there inability to be able to communicate and a lack of interest in such a activity.

Humans value knowledge by nature and thats why we are seeing a lessing of intilect in the world because people have started to value more primitive thing then knowledge.

This is what some call de-evolving.

To answer your question the people who do accuatully think we are the only one's that are going to heaven are to stupid and the one's who understand that animails have the same place as us in the universe either 1 don't care or 2 understand that it is a waste of there time to try and explain it to others because it can't be proven 100% that we all root from the exact same origin


"Be careful what you pretend to be because you are what you pretend to be. So it goes. - Vonnegut"

64 Posts / 5M
     :   24yrs   :  
allimar

If I may make a bold statement.
I have come to the conclusion that we are in-fact, given science to avoid death. It is said in the Bible for example humans were immortal.
Animals and insects, there goal is to produce offspring. Those that live pass on there DNA.
For humans however, we learn live, experience art, pain, pleasure, were pretty complicated for having the simple goal of producing offspring. Then again, if we don’t start wising up this planet will eventually become unable to support human life. Being an act of human or nature.
Looking at science, we will have the capability to alter peoples DNA via shots to enhance our memory, strength, intelligence, longevity ect, permanently.
Looking at the Bible and religion, we were meant to fix our selves and work at becoming a pure society free of sin.

Well?


""Live to become, not aquire" Kenneth R Bowles"

34 Posts / 13M
     :   25yrs   :  
Gabriel23

If people were immortal, they'd still be present. We all parish, my thing is, I do believe in immortality, the thing is, this life is not the place with that capability, since no one has obtained it to our knowledge. Our energy is that which is immortal. This I think.


"I never let the negativity of life, dull the beauty in my life."

64 Posts / 5M
     :   24yrs   :  
allimar

Trick for humanity to be immortals would be energy containment. The longer we wait, the harder it will be to sustain larger populations. We would have to somehow contain all energy within a system, once in that system master transferring that energy from one form to another. At that point we would be able to sustain ourselves within limits.

Being human however a war would probably break out for something barbaric and idiotic like a new religion, belief, fear or greed and that balance would be broken. Then after the war our ability to sustain said population would drop. This would probably occur until we simply couldn’t contain enough energy to support life.


""Live to become, not aquire" Kenneth R Bowles"

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