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Is it just me or are people becoming increasingly simple, stupid and ignorant? Has the whole concept of individuality taken a leave from the ideological stand point of all and one?
Even here, do i find a group of 'wanna-be academics,' debating and arguing over pointless topics. Though this site is founded around the idea of sharing knowledge and gaining some kind of enlightenment, that is if there is any to be had, it is clearly divided between various disciplinary understandings and perceptions. Those who are religious, those who are not, those who are educated, those who are not and those who clearly wish they were, pretend to be, but sadly, never had the capacity to be so. However, i must point out, clearly, the last takes majority.
Tell me, if not futile, what is the point of this site? Intellect, in-sight, understanding and the holding of knowledge is, without a doubt, a noble cause, but undeniably, not present within this threads and stupidity and dull-minded wit.
Come on. Lets put our cocks on the block, as it were. Who of us actually has letters after our names, or even before. Give us your I.Q and no crap. Let us see the grand mass, that is, this poor excuse for those who would make claim to be able to give others insight.

*Please Note* This, as you can see, is a academic experiment founded on socialization and cause and react. The statement made above is not the true view of the author.

"The parable to which you bow."

yeahh so the last sentence in your post is completely hypocritical. why would you be doing this study if you were not going to group the different people who respond by what they say. this is just a judgmental and arrogant way for you to try to come off as cool or something.

asking me for my IQ sounds like some primitive and primordial way for you to compare yourself to others, like a insecure man in a communal shower. this thread is stupid... sorry

"if life has no point whats the point in talking about it?"

There is nothing wrong with the psychological experitment. What is flawed is the fact that you included that last statement.

The last statement entices people to feel that you do not respect them enough to let them experience your test without having being told it is a test. This undermines any naturality in the responses you will get.

Examining why you chose to include that sentence yourself will provide certain insight into the expectations you have on others and how that will undermine any intelligence they might display.

Not to say it isn't understandable... I just feel you should not feel the need to protect your image by seemingly protecting peoples' impression of you: If people are going to think you are a judgemental person who thinks others are stupid (as is this site) then you should certainly let them.

If you care what people think of you through their projections of who you are, and if this makes you question your own motives, you will not be able to adequately pursue an examination of their minds and reactions because people use those projections to protect themselves from things they don't want to see... and it is the things people don't want to see that tells you the most about them.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

To whomever this opinion may concern:



You cannot state such a topic on this forum feeling justified, glorified, and righteous, spewing what you believe to be the general truth when you have no sense of respect towards the interests and abstractions of the people who discuss topics at hand.

For one, you have just joined this forum making it evident that you have not even begun to touch base upon the topic and reason of hardly anything discussed amongst the traverse of ideas included.
Secondly, you have no place to conclude that this forum is entirely pointless, for you have no clue what goes on outside of the forum itself. Many people to take into consideration and incorporate the ideas read and discussed in these forums to their lives.

If anything, you have displayed an abberant cause for why childish minds are rejected and treated as they are in today's society.

Many people in this forum (myself included) find great joy in the discussion of a wide variety of topics, whether it be theoretical and alalytical philosophy or just simple drawings.

Lastly, IQ tests are standardized ways of measuring the individual's intelligence, but by who's standards? Intelligence is not a measure of shape recognition and number patterns, intelligence is a word relative to those who perceive it. And tell me, Mr. Ego, what have you done that you can say is honestly productive? - Let me answer for you: Nothing. This is because you do not take the time to observe; you do not use reason and this makes you as primitive and simple minded as a rotting turkey sandwich.

"How nice - To say nothing, yet still get full credit for being alive."

Bantam_Confrere > I find it notable that your primary position is that one cannot make judgements about this site for a lack of information - yet if the first post had been complimentary I'm certain you would not have replied with such disdain and critique.

One can immediately determine the legitimacy of a group of people by their methods of discussion and communication, so it is only intelligent (and respectful) to acknowledge that his conclusions may be correct, given not only that he is verbose but that he is 6 years older than you are (humility is in your best interests, despite the desire to think otherwise).

Additionally, I find it disconcerning that you would respond in such an abrasive manner given the fact that he clearly, clearly (and unfortunately) posted that this was not his true opinion, and just an experiment.

Your desire to respond aggressively, to vent inner frustration at something or someone else is funneled into scapegoating something that has clearly no reason to be reacted to in such a manner. The justification behind ignoring the last line of his post is an indication of bias: that you wanted to be offended, so that your anger could be released, so that you could vent the aggressiveness in you.

But the original poster has already answered your entire post in the last line of his post.

And it is unfortunate that we let our lifebound anger blur our ability to communicate - for you have certainly permitted it to happen to you in this case.

And unfortunately, this happens far too often, so you are not unique in this mistake - but does that make it acceptable to you?

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

Yes, I realized after I posted, that I had made a stupid mistake. I later edited the changes by stating towards the top that I was trying to direct it towards whomever's opinion it was.

I was out of my place, but I do believe that I had some key points vital to the ideals behind his post.

"How nice - To say nothing, yet still get full credit for being alive."

Your post is an attempt to respond harshly to all the critiques he has posted - not to try to see how he is correct.

People are stupid. People are ignorant. People are not looking for enlightenment. This site barely touches on ideas and subjects that actually matter in the real world. A lot of the people (historically, anyways) on this site have been absolute posers coming here to assert their intelligence rather than enhance it.

In the real world, Bush gets re-elected. In the real world, Britney's Baby is the most searched term on Google. In the real world all the money is made off anti-depressants and viagra.

His posted point is certified by your response which opposes his perceptions with little to no humility, and your oppositions are based on fantasy not reality.

And it seems you've answered the question at the end of my previous post - yes, it is acceptable, because you're not taking the time to stop the aggression.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

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Is it just me or are people becoming increasingly simple, stupid and ignorant?

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Even here, do i find a group of 'wanna-be academics,' debating and arguing over pointless topics.

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Tell me, if not futile, what is the point of this site?

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Give us your I.Q and no crap. Let us see the grand mass, that is, this poor excuse for those who would make claim to be able to give others insight.

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*Please Note* This, as you can see, is a academic experiment founded on socialization and cause and react. The statement made above is not the true view of the author.

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"I'm a human being, God Dammit!! My life has value!!!"

Agreed. This little test of mine is rather obscure and is rather subjective and i really do not like having to include the last statement, but if you have ever tried doing something like this before, you will quickly realize how difficult it is to complete before being removed from the site, having your account banned and the thread deleted.
I have been able to get through it once, or twice before, but the test pool was not of the right fiber, as it were.
MugenNoKarayami, you can more than likely, see now, why i have chosen to include this statement. Often, people are very protective of themselves and defensive of their intellect and are often more than willing to remove that which is challenging them, rather than to allow themselves to be challenged.
136 is rather good in terms of average. Most people reflect around 90 - 100, whilst those of a psychopathic mind hold around 120.

"The parable to which you bow."

Decius. I fully agree with what you are saying in regards to what people reflect, allow to be reflected and what they keep far from view. However, in all things reflected, it is very difficult not to reflect some facet of self-truth, or self-perception, without allowing some aspect of yourself be shown. Through these little tid-bits of self-representation, it is very possible to gain insight. I mean take the first response for example. Being the first, as i expected, it was almost an attack. Secondly, was your reply. However, rather than just agreeing, you took the time to evaluate the post itself, then the follow-up.
If you had responded first, how would your post have been structured, more of an evaluation, or, like the first, a critic?

"The parable to which you bow."

I would not have responded because I agree with most of the observations you made, or I understand why one would feel inclined to be so critical and harsh even if it is incorrect. I do not have anything to add or subtract from such a statement - it is the path of the author, and according to me a good one to discover that themselves.

But I did want to provide a response to the second post, and also your own, in a manner that would be atypical and provide you some hope that there is indeed intelligence that surpasses the threshold of predictability somewhere out there. That isn't to say I made my post atypical on purpose, but I knew my reaction to the first two posts would be very welcommed by someone who truly observes the quasi-intellectualism that consumes "intellectuals" everywhere, and thoroughly enjoy a post that comes from a mind that seems to stick to the path of logic rather than the path that everyone else is.

If your question is, would i be critical of you? Certainly not. The opinion in the first post is the anger of a non-conformist towards all the hypocrisy and conformity surrounding us all - i feel warm and fuzzy inside when i hear such rants.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

So this thread is one of the more amusing ones I've seen in a while. I just took an IQ test because it's been a while. Internet tests aren't that accurate, but my IQ has always been around 130-150 even on official tests. Just thought you'd all love to know that it's 146 at the moment. IQ has always felt kind of silly to me. There are a lot of ways a person can be intelligent. Mugen is a better artist then I could ever hope to be. Decius seems to understand people in a way that I can just barely fathom. Also for example, I have had some of the best conversations with high school drop outs. I have found several members of MENSA to be totally immoral and lacking common sense. More verbose members of CaptainCynic may appear to have higher IQ, but language may really be their only skill. I may come off as "average" but I am in fact a spatial genius. As a side note - having letters after your name doesn't have a whole heck of a lot to do with IQ, but rather everything to do with passion and determination.

From what I have observed, "regulars" on CaptainCynic generally appear to be of above average IQ. Still, it is difficult for people even with above average intellect to utilize a forum as a way of improving their character. There is a stigma with forums which causes people to not take themselves as seriously as they could or perhaps should.

"I am Akba-Atatdia"
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I agree to an extent. Letters before and after ones name have little to do with i.q. However, to my mind, this is more of the case when it comes to obtaining a degree. For example, when first gaining entry to UNI, some years back, i had high expectations of the individuals i would meet, yet was quickly disappointed. For the most part, those who go through higher education, simply do so, as a means to an end, rather than for the love of knowledge, as the case may be.
Essentially, finding support through ones degree is simple and can be done so through social securities. However, when moving on to a MA, MD, PhD or even HO, the easy way through is taken away and those who wish to continue must, thus find there own economic means to see themselves through.
For me, getting a degree was as easy as sitting up at the back of the room, paying more attention to my own manuscript, rather than what was being said. The effort i made was minimal, yet still, i graduated in the top 1% of the state. The MA was a little more complex and it was good to gain some stimulation. yet the PhD, though, often worked upon alone, is far more enjoyable.
Yes, i am working on my PhD and yes, i am only 21. And before you ask, yes i know, for most, that is impossible. However, i was able to gain entry to higher education much sooner than most. Yes, just in case anyone is wondering, i have a condition, but no, i wont tell you what it is.
This is working out better than i had hoped. Thank you.

"The parable to which you bow."

now that you mention you have a 'condition', I think I know now why you have created this thread.

may need some more thought though, on my part, so I'll post when I think of something worth posting.

"I'm a human being, God Dammit!! My life has value!!!"

Looking forward to it.

"The parable to which you bow."