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1687 Posts / 40M
     :   20yrs   :  
awakendwraith

because it is clearly light hearted and meant to be a freindly remark.
and you pretty muched just helped my point out. its not that they are insulted, more that they think we are trying to insult them when we say "nigger."
if they would just get over themselves, we wouldnt have a problem.
now i know this makes me sound like a racit, but i never say, or even want to say, nigger. so dont think that.
but im talking about people in general. why cant they just let things go like that. but no. they would rather get pissed off about every little thing because they think it makes them more like a man, or tougher, or some shit like that.


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

1309 Posts / 42M
     :   20yrs   :  
Cynic-Al

i agree with you, people arent annoyed by the remark, butby the thought that you are trying to insult them. but i would say that it actually annoys them, rather than them just feeling they should be annoyed.

the light hearted and friendly remark comment however brings up the whole, right situation debate. and then the worries bit. would you not agree that it is easier to not make comments that may insult at all, than make them and cause insult, or try and only make them when they wont insult someone?


"So Schrodinger's Cat is not only neither dead nor alive, but might also be sexually aroused by elbows and peanut butter?"

1687 Posts / 40M
     :   20yrs   :  
awakendwraith

for me.. sometimes. but if i feel like saying something and i hide that i feel that i am not being honest and truthful. not to that person, but to myself.


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

944 Posts / 49M
     :   21yrs   :  
Attolia

Insults are a form of expression. Insults are a way to be honest. But if you cared more about building bridges, then you wouldn't use words or phrases that will cause outright anger.

Plus, you can't always tell the entire truth. Part of being intelligent is adapting to the situation. Speaking a way the other person will understand and accept what you say.


"How can we be just in a world without mercy and merciful in a world without justice?"

276 Posts / 38M
     :   21yrs   :  
Zato

I would have to say my opinion is that people shouldn't use racist terms.
First of all whats the point?
Second of all why take a chance of insulting someone.
Third of all, if you use the words because they are "funny" think about why they are funny. Is it because people get pissed when they hear it or something of that sort? Or is it funny for no reason?
For me, angry people make me laugh because they loose all sense of rationality and become nothing more than fools who yell. That seems to be the only reason I can find that would make a racial slur funny at all but even with that said I still think it is pointless to even use the words at all, unless of course you are intentionally looking for anger.
Well thats just the opinion from this here guy.


"Anything is Possible when you think illogically."

1687 Posts / 40M
     :   20yrs   :  
awakendwraith

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Plus, you can't always tell the entire truth
yes you can. i do it all the time.
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Part of being intelligent is adapting to the situation
sure. but i dont see what that has to do with me insulting someone.
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Insults are a way to be honest
not always. sometimes its a way to piss someone off. some tiems its a way to express anger. some times they are a way to get a kick out of someone. hence the your mom jokes.


quote:
First of all whats the point?
look upward.
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Second of all why take a chance of insulting someone
because i probably dont care what they think.
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Third of all...
its funny for a reason. but that snt the only reason why someone would do it.


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

944 Posts / 49M
     :   21yrs   :  
Attolia

So then you don't actually care about the person you're insulting. You only want to express your opinion and leave it at that. That's alright. I'm all up for honesty, but if you want to take it one step further, but there are better ways to show a person that they're an idiot without actually calling them one. If you wanted them to improve, you can show them how their thoughts are lacking in certain areas. I think this will lead to a better result compared to name calling.


"How can we be just in a world without mercy and merciful in a world without justice?"

276 Posts / 38M
     :   21yrs   :  
Zato

I didn't mean that those wee the only reasons why its funny, for instance when it is just ridiculous. Or out of no where.
What ever the reason. I still think it is wrong though because it just seems negative in the long run. Oh well.


"Anything is Possible when you think illogically."

44 Posts / 46M
     :   17yrs   :  
Cujo0424

Alright, Itisasiseeit, who's to say that it's wrong to be a racist? Racism is a belief, just like a democrat or a republican. And it's not a belief that really jumps out at people like a political party's. You'd be hard pressed to find a racist who will hate on a race more than a republican will hate on abortion, or a strong religious person will hate on an athiest. And it's something that goes both ways. There are black people who hate white people, white people who hate black people, etc.

Now, there's the public viewpoint, in which I agree, it's not right for a white person to walk around in public going, "I hate niggers!" But you can't tell a racist that his or her beliefs are wrong because they'll have reasons for their beliefs, just like anyone else.

From time to time I'll post a new question for the thread relating tot he title, and here's another one:
If someone kills another human being because their belief tells them that it's for the best of human kind, should it still be charged the same way? Could an overly religious person who kills a man because he thinks God is telling him to be considered insane? Because, after all, in prayers, aren't signs asked for? And how many people in America pray?

What if a black man kills a white racist because the white guy was beating black children or killing them and getting away with it?

To what extent should an individual's belief have an affect on the legal system?


""Scared is not the right word...I'm frightened of it..."---Love & Death"

1105 Posts / 68M
     :   29yrs   :  
wesdawgy

Forget trying to please everyone, but at least do not abuse the words that you KNOW are fucking offensive you ignorant assholes. If you are trying to offend, then go ahead (hence the "ignorant assholes" but know that is what you are doing purposefully.

The N word being used by black men and women has always been controversial, but one way that it was explained to me is that by using the word, "NiggA" in this case, it numbs the effects and power that it holds. So then by a white person saying it purposely being offensive, it does not hold the same forbidden, hush, secretive connotations.


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757 Posts / 41M
     :   19yrs   :  
MugenNoKarayami

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=nigger

nig·ger
n. Offensive Slang

1.
a. Used as a disparaging term for a Black person: “You can only be destroyed by believing that you really are what the white world calls a nigger” (James Baldwin).
b. Used as a disparaging term for a member of any dark-skinned people.
2. Used as a disparaging term for a member of any socially, economically, or politically deprived group of people: “Gun owners are the new niggers... of society” (John Aquilino).
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Soo Using the word 'nigger' now, to me, seems acceptable when it's painfully obvious that a more than likely [african american] is showing "niggerish" traits... the Impact of the word isn't as great as it used to because people point out people's misfortunes all the time and not very often do people get upset over something as rediculous as that. Why have you put yourself in a position to have someone say that to you/about you? I just don't get it.


"I'm a human being, God Dammit!! My life has value!!!"

1309 Posts / 42M
     :   20yrs   :  
Cynic-Al

using racial slurs most of the time is a brilliant way to show your own blatant ignorance. if someone is a total fucking twat, what the hell does race have to do with it. there are some black guys i absolutely hate, i dont hate them cause they're balck, i hate them cause they are stupid ignorant and over agressive. i insult them by concentrating on their bad points, not by using racial slurs. that just makes me look racist, and gets absolutely no point across.

as for racial slurs being funny, no. race has no real relevance anymore, or shouldnt, it doesnt affect anything about us, unless you get some moron who brings it up. america is especially good at conditioning people otherwise however. my mum used to be the registrar of civil marriages where i used to live, she was taking down the details of one couple, and when she asked their race, the man replied "black american", and she had a hell of a lot of trouble explaining to him that his racce was just "american" and that whether he was black or not had nothing to do with it.why does this exist, we dont say black-british or black-french, so why black-american?


"So Schrodinger's Cat is not only neither dead nor alive, but might also be sexually aroused by elbows and peanut butter?"

1687 Posts / 40M
     :   20yrs   :  
awakendwraith

it sounds like you care what people think about you.
otherwise

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using racial slurs most of the time is a brilliant way to show your own blatant ignorance

this wouldnt matter.

sticks and fucking stones people.

and on that subject, when someone tels me that they want to be called African-American, i say, call me Europeon-American.

i like it.


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

48 Posts / 49M
     :   26yrs   :  
ITISASISEEIT

cujo0424
please tell my you're not trying to justify racism?
if so i would find it hard not to call you an ignorant facist bastard argument ended.


"Great visions often start with small dreams"

1309 Posts / 42M
     :   20yrs   :  
Cynic-Al

but do they honestly want to be called african americans, or like the guy my mum dealt with, do they just automatically assume that "african" has to be added on. to me that shows that there is some segregation, if people feel the need to state the difference between white and no-white americans.


"So Schrodinger's Cat is not only neither dead nor alive, but might also be sexually aroused by elbows and peanut butter?"

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