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ahmetcelik

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I ask for a brief answer; can you build a building without ground floor? you cannot. how can you build a theory without explaining the origin of first living organism? Give me a logical answer


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329 Posts / 50M
     :   25yrs   :  
patape

heres your logical answer.. we cant build a building without a ground floor cause were not capable we can build a theory without explaining the (SUPPOSED) first living organism becasue we are capable...


(well for the sake of refuting your first claim maybe its possible to take airplanes near eacother and build some sort of building as thier flying then again the airplane would be a base (some sort of ground floor but not quite the one i think your thinking of)


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329 Posts / 50M
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patape

what??? if evolution incudes the big bang theory maybe i can see your point.. but if your talking about our conclusions of some evolving process why would we need to know the orgional first casue if any to conclude findings after it?? thats like me asking you how do you know how humans have made other humans in the past couple centuries without knowing our orgins?? We can make observations about all kinds of things including relgiion history digin without really knowing orgins either..


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856 Posts / 37M
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Jacker_Jones

Yes evolution makes sense in that regards. But, then explain why we still have monkeys?


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359 Posts / 39M
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eliasan

becouse evolution is a spradic effect of muttaoin the probabillity that it will mutate is so high that that it takes thousand maybe millions of years for something to evolve unles more outside dircetion is applyed so there fore we still have monkeys.


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210 Posts / 34M
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Navin

eliasan if you dont mind go into why we still have monkeys.. because i always come back to that to and what you said woudl make sense if i wer more intelligent but ia m not


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6 Posts / 34M
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DrumMajor

Evolution is not a singular event. If a creature developes to a new species it isn't jsut a flash of light and all monkeys are magically humans, it is a slow process, humans phase in. Consecutive evolutionary steps can exist simultaneously. Furthermore if monkeys are still fit enough to survive even with thier new competition (humans) they will not die out but continue procreating allowing prolonged monkey/human interaction.


329 Posts / 50M
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patape

WE DIDNT COME FROM MONKEY'S WE CAME FROM A COMMON ANSESTOR thats why it doesnt contradict evolution to have these monkeys.. i like monkeys


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329 Posts / 50M
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patape

woops maybe we did come from monkeys.. but that was still a false analogy (first poast, and i see youve started that question in other forums when i was looking up monkeys) maybe the monkeys will slowly turn into humans,, its called LATE BLOOMERS.. dont be so sketptical to that extent..

im not pro monkey i hate monkeys.. just defending them (or us)


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329 Posts / 50M
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patape

nevermind apperanlty i wasnt wrong of what i said before.. chek it out

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/faq/cat02.html


ands

http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mevolution.html


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2886 Posts / 57M
     :   24yrs   :  
Wyote

the reason humans and apes both still exsist is due to the nature of their individual evolution. at some point in time there was a divergence from a common anscestor that humans and apes have. ape ancestors became more muscular and larger using size and strength to their advantage while human ancestors learned to use tools which caused them to begin walking upright and allowed them to gain problem solving capabilites.

both divergences were advantageous in different ways, clearly the humanoids won out on generating a greater population, but apes have remained because of sheer muscle mass and size.... you try fighting one on your own!

btw there is no "missing link" per se. it is just difficult to determine exactly when this divergence occured due to the lack of physical evidence.


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1334 Posts / 40M
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summit

exactly what Wyote said.

Humans are apes. We just descended and diverged from different ape species. The process involved is known as natural selection. Individuals that are better adapted to their environment are more likely to reproduce, and their fertile offspring will carry on these favored traits. Humans diverged from common ancestors and adapted to different ways of life, ie. use of tools. (this is known as speciation-adaptive radiation).


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Wyote

here is a rudimentary drawing for you visual folks.

http://www.amonline.net.au/human_evolution/images/image002.gif


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1347 Posts / 38M
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etherealmeekle

Do all species evolve at the same rate?


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1334 Posts / 40M
     :   22yrs   :  
summit

No all species evolve at different rates. This depends on:
- mutations.
- genetic drift.
- gene flow.
- random mating and
- selection.


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