fashion

I may be wrong here but essentially we have stumbled across 2 types of what good is.

Cynic, I sense that yours is about the fact good just exists.

The other is that good is about freeing yourself from ties...seeing with your own eyes kind of thing.

Good points.

""No words""

'fashion' is completely pointless
its a way forvain people to try and impress each other
following 'fashion' fashion is like being a sheep that follows a herd
why bother
if 'Popular' people dont like you for what you wear then their not worth it
wearing things you like is showing who you are so wearing what others want you to wear means your hiding who you are
if your friends stop liking you coz your not wearing the latest t-shirt then are they worth it
be your self for gods sake

"rock on"

Fashion as an art form is a lost cause.

It may exist in miniscule little farts here and there, but majority of the people (99.9%) dress the way they do to fit into a clique... not the other way around (that they fit into the clique and then started dressing that way because it optimized the mentalities shared in the clique).

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

"Fashion is something so ugly it has to change every six months" - Oscar Wilde

I believe that, fully. If people can't stick to it that long, was it ever really worth it?

I don't have the money to do that, nor does anyone in my family, thus I'll keep my t-shirts and jeans until they're somehow destroyed.

Fashion has a following only because people care about how they look, and god knows you don't want to be that one person who looks so last year.

Fashion is followed, especially by the youth because it's all about being like everyone else. You'll get looked at weird and all of these horrible things will happen if you're not like everyone else.

Where as when you get older, you don't care as much. You've been there, done that, and you're not about to waste a few hundred dollars a year to do what you did X many years ago.

It's pointless.

If you want to follow fashion, alright- whatever floats your boat. Just don't bug me when you finally notice I've had the same clothes for three or four years.

"Your happiness is conditional."

i've got to admit that i changed the way i dress quite a lot recently, however, i still dont really think i dress in any particular fashion, though i did change because i thought the wat i dressed looked somewhat "childish". at times the way i look verges on band member from "Jet" but most of the time, its whatever i think looks good and i can get at a decent price.

the question to ask, "was my idea of childish and looks good affected by social inputs?" how would i look, or think aobut the way i looked, if i had the choice if i chose from anything with no prior social conditioning, say a complete mind wipe? fashion exists, get over it, everyone follows it to some extent, like anything, it good in moderation.

"So Schrodinger's Cat is not only neither dead nor alive, but might also be sexually aroused by elbows and peanut butter?"

Decius, I believe that fashion is an art form, but depending how you look aat it. When you see fashion shows and stuff you may think to yourself, Wow, that is a really ugly outfit that nobody in their every day life could wear. But when you really think about it, somebody sat down and put a lot of time into creating that peice. No different then an artist with a canvas and some paint.

Fashion is a way of expressing yourself. while you are right to say that most people dress a certain way because that's what they are expected to wear, you cannot argue that fashion is not art.

"Dont complain that roses have thorns. Instead, be thankful that thorns have roses."

a band member from jet? wow. thats kinda... sad... fashion victim aye?
fashion exists, get over it? fashion will always exist,but what i am discusted with is judgement. what you wear doesnt determine who you are. think hollywood and middle schools. very much alike.

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Fashion as an art form is a lost cause.

It may exist in miniscule little farts here and there, but majority of the people (99.9%) dress the way they do to fit into a clique... not the other way around (that they fit into the clique and then started dressing that way because it optimized the mentalities shared in the clique).

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"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

it may seem to you that they are glitzy parades. and yeah most of them are but my friend is a fashion designer who actually incorporates art and emotion into her designs.

Are you 100% sure?

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

ha no i am not, but i am sure that she does study effects of color and emotion. i remember one time she created this one 'outfit' made to represent her childhood. with things such as fabric from her childhood couch, the color of her first car ( with accents of its interior inside the garment)and yes even fishing wire.

Fashion itself is not evil. Some people's appreach to it is destructive.
I have never been a follower of fashion and sometimes I have been ridiculed for this reason. That's sheep misdset makes it very hard to be different. That's the insecurity of human nature and it happens over all sorts of things from people reading "the right books" (I refuse to read the De Vinci Code on principle) to social drinking/smoking. This is the real problem.

I like Harajuku fashion. People using fashion and creativity as an escape from stress. I do that. When I feel down I wear something I find fun, or with good memories associated with it, to cheer me up. I don't find anything evil about this.

I do find it appauling kids are made to feel inferior of they don't look like photoshopped models though. That is evil. Appearance is empasised with girls anyway.
Add impossible standards and disaster follows.
But this is about making money. It really is. But this skin product and that handbag so you can be cool. It's about selling but fashion is by no means the only culprit but perhaps one of the most personal as it puts all the importance on appearance.

No offence Decius,, but you sound like a guy dragged on one too many shopping trips by his girlfriend.

"We are, all of us, in the gutter but some of us a looking at stars"

might i say from a high school students perspective fashion is all that matters to some people. You could be ridiculed for a tag on the back of your shirt that names the brand. Girls in particular ridicule others for what they wear. although fashion can also be a social thing

"There is no such thing as innocence obly degrees of guilt"

The root issue here is conformity. Fashion is just an extension of it. Fashion in itself is not evil. It's like a knife, as Cynical said. What matters is what you're going to do with it and why.

"How can we be just in a world without mercy and merciful in a world without justice?"

Like Decius said, there's a difference between conforming and sharing each others views. Conformity is blindly following without a reason. Conforming to a good thing isn't bad, but it means that you don't do it because it's good, you do it because your friends do it.

There's nothing wrong with being mainstream. It's a pattern like any other. As long as you are aware of the good and evil in it and choose consciously, and not only because your friends are into pop culture.

"How can we be just in a world without mercy and merciful in a world without justice?"