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fate - Page 3

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 37yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that heyjme1 is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Hawking thinks so based on current understanding. Thats why this question is open. Never forget the greatest minds are ultimately still feeble.

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 35yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that etherealmeekle is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
If life was based on chance (randomness) rather than fate (structure) then what would the purpose of life be? There would be none because an action left to chance has no meaning and therefore our lives (made up of meaningless actions) would serve no purpose at all.

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"
 37yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that heyjme1 is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Consider a bowling ball rolling down a bowling alley. It is pushed. Phsyics dictates its course of action but if there's a little child sitting in the next alley he can disturb that ball. Life therefore affects what we perceive as fate. If the kid is controlled by fate then we are just mortals living a predestined life. I feel in my gut this is wrong but cannot logically prove it; if I did you'd be speaking to a very potential Nobel Laurete and that would be the least of accoldaes.

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 35yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that etherealmeekle is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
But all that example tells me is that chance makes our actions meaningless. The bowler might have been playing a perfect game and then chance came and arbitrarily ruined his accomplishment. Why bother if living if chance might just decide to kill you anyway?

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"
 37yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that heyjme1 is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
No the meaning is that I get to affect an event. There is meaning in that I can affect things-I exist and I have choice.

The opposite...pure fate means it does not matter whether I think something or not...that has already been decided. If I am living fate I am predestined. Therefore I have not the choice to question. Do you believe this?

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 35yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that etherealmeekle is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Fate controls things like life and death and mainy other constant things and free will covers the rest. I never said that fate ruled all I am suggesting that fate and free will coexist

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 37yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that heyjme1 is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
We are speaking from the same book

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 35yrs • F •
Liveless is new to Captain Cynic and has less than 15 posts. New members have certain restrictions and must fill in CAPTCHAs to use various parts of the site.
personally, I always believed that what was meant to happen is gonna happen, sometimes u can very much so affect on ur own fate, and sometimes, no matter what u do, u just cant !

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 35yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that etherealmeekle is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
You can affect fate by using free will but that doesn't make it chance.

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"
 33yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that TRANCEND is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
FATE MEANS THINGS ARE SET TO HAPPEN A CERTAIN WAY, OR PREDETERMINED, IF THIS IS SO, HOW CAN FREE WILL EVEN BE? WHY WOULD ANY OF YOUR ACTIONS EVEN MATTER IF THEY COULDNT CHANGE THE WAY SOMETHING IS TO BE.

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"\WHEN YOU CANGE THE WAY YOU LOOK AT THINGS THE THINGS YOU LOOK AT CHANGE"
 35yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that etherealmeekle is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
But you can alter fate to an extent because part of what fate is is a consequence or end result meaning that some action must take place first. Fate is the picture frame in which free will in drawn.

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 33yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that TRANCEND is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
IF FATE COULD BE ALTERED OR CHANGED, THEN IT WOULDNT BE FATE ANYMORE. NOW THERE WOULD BE A "CHANCE" THINGS COULD BE DIFFERENT.

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"\WHEN YOU CANGE THE WAY YOU LOOK AT THINGS THE THINGS YOU LOOK AT CHANGE"
 35yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that etherealmeekle is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
No because fate is structured and chance is not. People live and then die chance would indicate the possibility of dying then living or dying without life at all or living without death.

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"
 33yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that TRANCEND is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
HOW DO YOU FIGURE?

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"\WHEN YOU CANGE THE WAY YOU LOOK AT THINGS THE THINGS YOU LOOK AT CHANGE"
 35yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that etherealmeekle is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Fate follows rules that chance does not. Chance is arbitrary and therefore it enslaves us to its control. Fate puts limits on certain things but that allows us to reach maximum potential.

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