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Two more Popes shall reign and the End is come

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277 Posts / 46M
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TheIrishPagan

Unless we all repent and subject ourselves to the will of the Church?

Sorry buddy, but the world has been ending for millennia now, and your explanation does not fit into the Prophesy at all. There is one major concern with any prophesy that is made public, and that is people will go out of their way to make it happen. In 1958, before the Conclave that would elect Pope John XXIII, Cardinal Spellman of New York hired a boat, filled it with sheep and sailed up and down the Tiber River, to show that he was "Pastor et Nautor", the motto attributed to the next Pope in the prophecies. Also, this is supposed to be the second to last Pope, so the Benedictine angle is one to soon.

The Malachy Prophecy, as well as the other you mention, are part of a long line of doctrines and policies designed for one thing and one thing only, to keep people in the Church, to keep as large a power base as possible. Preaching religious intolerance is another. What easier way to keep people in your faith and Church, then by disclaiming any other Gods exist, or are evil?


"Oops, it appears I have run over your dogma with my karma."

336 Posts / 47M
     :   38yrs   :  
Xris

You almost sound frightened, lol.

No one is asking you to believe the Malachy prophecy. But the fact is that many of them are more than apparent in their fulfillment whereas many are vague (much like Nostradamus). This pope's is chillingly accurate in its fulfillment. If you believe Malachy then the next pope will usher in the rule of the antichrist and the end of days. If you don't believe it then none of this should even mildly interest you. I, myself, do not rely upon catholic priests but upon Scripture and the fact that Israel lives again is the most important sign of the times that could possibly exist. However, God's calendar is not known by me so I await his return patiently.


277 Posts / 46M
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TheIrishPagan

Frightened? Hardly, merely pointing out yet another contradiction.

And Nostradamus would be chilling, if he had used concise description, as opposed to the vague prose in a language already dead in his time, and arranged his prophesy in a time line, instead of wandering all over. And also if it was not popular during his time, to attempt to gain a monarch’s favor in some way, through song, poetry, or mysticism, so one could live high of the table.

So, what do you plan on doing with yourself, and your Scripture, two or three Pope’s from now? The current one is not likely to last long after all, so better be quick.


"Oops, it appears I have run over your dogma with my karma."

2203 Posts / 67M
     :   49yrs   :  
okcitykid

I myself have not read the prophesy - My wife has and she says one more and the current pope will be short lived.

But a strange thing is the Maya Calendar which ends 2012. No one knows for sure what these means, but there are lots of ideas.


"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

9 Posts / 44M
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Bear46

Personally, I believe the Bible. The Bible says in Matthew 24:42-44 "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him." This clearly shows that no one will know when the end is to come. Just always be prepared because it could happen in the next thirty seconds or it may happen two thousand years from now, nobody knows.


277 Posts / 46M
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TheIrishPagan

I would also like to point out, that these prophecies never state that the world is going to be blasted into a cinder floating about a dead sun. The prophesies may well mean an end, but in my opinion only to the current Catholic Church.

The ancient Nords had “Ragnarok”, what scholars at one time thought meant “the end of the world”. They are now looking at Ragnarok as meaning the end of the Nordic world as they knew it, and an end to the Asgardians (Nordic Gods). What many people forget, especially as related to ancient cultures, is that death meant basically two thing. Not only feeding worms, but it could also mean a deep and fundamental change. So no, I do not plan on holding my breath until the end of the world.

Why did the Mayans end their calendar in December of 2012? Because that is when the long cycle end is.
http://www.levity.com/eschaton/Why2012.html


"Oops, it appears I have run over your dogma with my karma."

2203 Posts / 67M
     :   49yrs   :  
okcitykid

quote:
Personally, I believe the Bible. The Bible says in Matthew 24:42-44 "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him."


I believe that too - difference is, you believe he's coming again, I believe he's already been here a second time and took his true followers with him. That would explain the current lunatics like Pat Roberts who claim to be one of the true church.


"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

51 Posts / 54M
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Cantersha

Bear46


"your only poor when you compare yourself with the man down the street."

33 Posts / 41M
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Punkycarrot

fair point but isnt the end of the world supposed to happen after christ has come for the second time
so if he has been again why are we still here
and why is there no record of these people disapering


"rock on"

2203 Posts / 67M
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okcitykid

The way I understand it is that the world doesn't actually come to and end, but it's like ending - things are going very bad, and then Jesus comes and sets up his kingdom on earth as it is in heaven.

There is another interesting interpretation by father fox. Jesus won't actually return but his concience will within those who truely believe.


"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

1 Posts / 37M
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jasoncyrus

quote:
The way I understand it is that the world doesn't actually come to and end, but it's like ending - things are going very bad, and then Jesus comes and sets up his kingdom on earth as it is in heaven.


ever think it means that eventually the world will be lead by idiots like bush and then a leader with some common sense arises?


"What we do in life, echo in eternity"

2203 Posts / 67M
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okcitykid

You might have something


"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

369 Posts / 67M
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Patrish

I'mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm backkkkkkkk

Well, what does it mean, what does it mean??

It means that Christ will reign again. The sinfulness will end. How you ask? BOOM! Big bad explosion of nukes...taking out the majority {2/3's} of the world.

What will last...?

Ok, what will last is fair. In fact, the scripture which everyone quotes was authored and kept and put together by Christ's original and ONLY hand picked Church...bing...Catholicism.

So if Catholicism owned and authored the book, she knows how to read it. I would assume, yet I am correct.

I will stop digressing here...

The Church has in HER scripture that everyone else borrows and reads, and has changed...anyway, in her book it states that the Christ will againreign for a thousand years....and in order to reign, His Church must rise out of the ashes again.

No one else has this knowledge if it were not for the Church and for Christ giving this Revelation to St John.

BTW, Matthew did state the warning signs.
I see ppl are finally seeing them.

Well, those with spiritual eyes that have been opened.

Hey folks....did ya miss me?

Peace!!! And pass the peace. {Gosh its been so long in here...lol}


"Life is full of lemons, and the lemonade is sweet."

369 Posts / 67M
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Patrish

I havent been in since April...now I know yins missed me like crazy...try to refrain from the smooches and stuff.

I extend my love to all.



"Life is full of lemons, and the lemonade is sweet."

2203 Posts / 67M
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okcitykid

quote:
It means that Christ will reign again. The sinfulness will end. How you ask? BOOM! Big bad explosion of nukes...taking out the majority {2/3's} of the world.




Can you quote me a scripture on that. I do hope you're joking, if two thirds of the earth was taken out by nukes, that would include the good, and bad and the ugly. This is an ecosystem that I doubt could survive on just one third of the earth if it wasn't poisoned by the other two thirds.

The bad would be the nukes, and the way to take out the bad is to stop the nukes. If we nuked two thirds of the earth, I doubt Jesus would want to come back.


"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

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