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Happiness - Page 4

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 35yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that wholly is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
yes, money can buy happiness

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"dont got one"
 33yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that analytical29 is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
only on occasion

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""That's only the tip of the iceberg.""
 32yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Ryunoskei is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
People believe that the meaning in life is to be happy. But in writing my own philosophy I find that being happy comes at too much of a cost for the important things going on around us. The whole world is dying and being polluted at our expense to be happy. As humans we are so narcassistic to believe that our emotions are worth more than the very earth that spawned us. Perhaps the divine purpose in life is to sacrafice your own feelings to help a greater cause.

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"Be shapeless, be ready to adapt -Bruce Lee"
 34yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that 730 is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
^^your purpose in life is to live!!!!.......take care of what is there for you...ALL that is there for you...and leave it as it was when you met it...and if at any point you make an improvement make sure you leave with it and let the person after you enjoy and utilize the same tools that was there for you...in purity!!!.......The greater cause of life, is living for life..

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"Being is not knowing!"
 33yrs • M •
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I think that money, can bring happiness. To a certain extent. Physically, it can make you happy. You can have nice things, nice clothes, nice car, whatever. But mentally. If you are alone, money won't make you happy. Yanno what I'm saying? And i think sooner or later, being mentally happy catches up to us all.

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"Aint flashed a smile in a long while...."
 33yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that analytical29 is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
true happiness and freedom lies with in the mind.. enlightenment happens once you can achieve this state

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""That's only the tip of the iceberg.""
 89yrs • M •
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Analytical asks: "Can money buy you happiness?"

Of course not.
The ''nice things" of which Joel speaks do not necessarily accompany happiness.

There are ways to acheive happiness, though:

Every morning, when you wake up, say to yourself: "I'm going to be happy today -- because I'm a happy person. If I run into 'the gentle mental rain from heaven' I won't let it throw me. With my opptimistic attitude, I'll put a positive spin on it: I'll find a name for the situation so that it turns out to be good. I may end up calling it a 'good puzzle!' or a good mess but it will be something good."
That's the first way: deciding to be happy, until it becomes a habit and a way-of-life.

There is a second major way, however.

We are most happy when a goal we have been striving for, for quite a while, we now see as within reach -- or it has just been attained. Therefore, a way to achieve happiness is to reach for a noble goal that makes us stretch ourselves to get to it -- say, to attempt something everyone considers "impossible." .......deciphering a code; going around the world on a very low budget; consistently winning at a game that is supposed to be in the house's favor; putting an end to some serious destitution; alleviating poverty in one town; bringing peace to the world; etc.
Then -- as we find ourself getting closer to our goal -- we will feel that thrill creeping over us that people call happiness.

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 33yrs • M •
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yes I know this.. I have always said that when a goal is reached then we are happy.. if a goal involves the use of money, then money can aid in the path to our happiness.. but money doesn't have anything to do with happiness itself.. it shouldn't even be in the question.. happiness is subjective to the knower..

ex.if my goal was to go on a cruise it would cost me money.. money wouldn't make me happy the cruise would.. making the money to afford the trip was my goal but the trip is what ultimatley makes me happy

ex of how it is subjective to the knower:
if my goal was to wiegh 180 pounds and I accomplished that then I would be happy.. that doesn't mean that someone else would be happy to wiegh 180 pounds

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""That's only the tip of the iceberg.""
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 33yrs • M •
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we as philosophers must get to the core, or the heart of everything..

but why?

will knowing what happiness is help us..
aren't there chemicals that allow us to be happy too?

I can't stop contradicting myself.. aahhhhh i can't figure it out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(perhaps I should be like ekimup, a silent observer)

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""That's only the tip of the iceberg.""
 60yrs • M •
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Money cannot buy you happeness. We just need enough money to make ends meet to be confortable, not extravedent. Everything does not need to be new.

Then what you must is become happy with what you have. That's difficult, difficult, because everything around you tells you that you need more. That's comercialism. We need to first learn to stop believing those comercials. You may not realize it now, but if you turned everything off for a week, you'll notice a peacefullness. You need to grasp that peacfullness and there you will find happeniss.

I think the poem the mariner and the albatros explains it best. Just before this man dies of thirst, he realizes how wonderful even the most minscual of life is, and he loves it, and is finally happy. It's a good poem, best poem I ever read in my life.


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"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."
 64yrs • F •
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I think you could never be 100% happy if you were rich, for one, you wouldn't know if your friends were true friends or just after your money. And you would probably never experience true love, because a part of you would always doubt the intentions of prospective partners.
I think you can only be truly happy when you can love life without money!

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 30yrs • M •
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It all depends on what makes you happy, most of the time if you have enough money, you can buy yourself happiness.

If it being drugs, alcohol, video games, sports, learning, teaching, relationships whatever you may like to do that makes you happy.

If it is something material or a person it's very possible, infact I really can't think of something that you couldn't buy with money that would make you happy.

The thing that makes me happiest in the world, is love. But, that brings into question "What is love?" (Baby don't hurt me! LOL.) love is in my opinion is an extreme state of happiness that is brought by another person from a relationship without any other substances involved, but love like many other things has many downsides, in my case it made me care about a person so much that I was constantly paranoid and overprotective, it can cause depression and extreme happiness. Love is a paradox.

Anyway, getting back on topic, you can even buy love, now that I had explained love, love is about an relationship, and if you want a person to act a certain way, you could .. pay an actor to be the way you want and you could be satisfied with them in a state of love.

The reason I'm making the points on love, because relationships are the thing that people(in my mind) believe cannot be purchased, ANYTHING can be simulated through enough effort and money.

Therefore, happiness is obtainable through money.

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"Reality hits hard. Your perception hits it even harder."
 30yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that MugenNoKarayami is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
I think the general theme here is, consensus rather, " Money CAN buy happiness, but not forever."

I bet I could go out right now and buy something I've been wanting and be happy. However, when the excitement from the purchase and usage wears off, I'll have to move on to something else that I've been wanting.

really glad I don't need to do that, I'd be brokeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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