Articles | Forums | Polls | Quotes | Who's Online | Store
Signup | Lost Password
"Insanity is the spice of life. One small dash can add flavour to the blandest personality." - Chained Wings
Latest:Wyote

I'm Old!
Main -> Social Awareness -> Religion  | NewPosts

You cant handle the truth

USER THREAD
1347 Posts / 40M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

But to be open minded is to reject the idea of truth and lies because no one can be sure of either.


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

1287 Posts / 40M
     :   20yrs   :  
Cynic-Al

no, to be open minded is to give equal consideration to all, suggestions, before deciding which is the truth and which is the lie. though occasionaly the middle ground is occasionaly chosen if there is equal support for both arguements. but the ideas of truth and lie are still accepted


"So Schrodinger's Cat is not only neither dead nor alive, but might also be sexually aroused by elbows and peanut butter?"

1347 Posts / 40M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

quote:
before deciding which is the truth and which is the lie


This cannot be because an open minded person ceases to be open minded if he decides one way or the other.


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

772 Posts / 40M
     :   25yrs   :  
heyjme1

Actually Ethereal has a good point here. We can only judge if something is true by comparison to our costs and values.

However, to have a set of concrete ideals to decide whether something is true or not is a closed mind that judges relative to itself.

And to prove it is not true: Law works by assuming it can judge. But the laws by which they find guilt are wrong because it only needs one case of someone innocent being found guilty to be untruthful.

The greater truth is that individuals vary in their judgement. The only thing that marks the difference is the success of the outcome.


""No words""

1347 Posts / 40M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

But to say that humans must not judge is illogical because then we would let all murderers walk our streets free to murder as they wish. Judgement must occur at a human level or else we have given up our intelligence. We must find a standard to live by one that is absolute lest we become completely lawless.


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

772 Posts / 40M
     :   25yrs   :  
heyjme1

Of course. It is only animals and humans that judge. Maybe?


""No words""

1347 Posts / 40M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

Animals are subject to humans so they are irrelevant to this topic.


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

772 Posts / 40M
     :   25yrs   :  
heyjme1

Actually go back to the name of this thread:

You cannot handle the truth.

Now. Lets cut it up and bash this comment with a big stick.

I can handle mass and that is true. I can handle a cat and that is true. I can handle a big cat that is true (assuming we know a lot or all of the cats!). I can handle a evil cat (I dont know whether this is true or not; but if it bites me, pisses on me and attacks me I am more conviced that it is a bad cat than a good cat. And that is because it affects me by making me have bad reaction towards it. Think about what 'bad' is and its terms like pain, violence, bitterness. Think about what good is and its 'aww thats cute' and isnt it sweet; pleasure, happy thoughts. Now the truth is these are concepts but they have, in this sense from my reference, unversal meaning, but only by reference between two bodies...or more bodies relating to themselves.


""No words""

1347 Posts / 40M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

quote:
You cannot handle the truth.


It is more correct to say that one does not want to handle the truth becasue truth is usally harder to accept the lies.


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

772 Posts / 40M
     :   25yrs   :  
heyjme1

Lol...dont get the wrong impression this was not a stab at you. The statement had the sole purpose for me to analyse to help me make a point.


""No words""

1347 Posts / 40M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

I did not take it as a stab I was just adding my thoughts


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

772 Posts / 40M
     :   25yrs   :  
heyjme1

Ok...I sent by accident...was going to add....

As for this point though....Many create lies that hide behind truth for comfort. Now facing the truth is proportional to the scale of it and the strength of the individual. And this in itself is assuming the truth is BAD! think about this.


""No words""

1347 Posts / 40M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

Truth is difficult because it involves action and it in not about comfort levels so most people cling to lies that allow them to be comfortable.


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

772 Posts / 40M
     :   25yrs   :  
heyjme1

That still assumes the values they hold are lies. In fact this thread has actually made me realise that religion is necessary for most. But there is a greater power and that is our own creativity and this is why I consider religion personal. If one cares to read through these thread you may see how I feel this based on the analysis of them


""No words""

1347 Posts / 40M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

Religion should be personal but it isn't. Christianity is a relationship with Jesus and that is personal in the same way as having a friend who has other friends than yourself but this doesn't change the oneness of this person simply because he has different friends.


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

You cant handle the truth
A1F1T0T1T2T3T4T5T6T7T8T9T10T11T12T13T14T15T16