Loving, Kind, Forgiving, Blessing God?

Justice Antonin Scalia recently gave a speech at Yeshiva- Cordoza Law School in New York, saying that he does not see how government, in any way, can be neutral about God. However, as we see, there are too many double standards regarding God and man for government, or for laymen, to be partial to God in their deliberations. So, if one were to murder my wife and children, then I am not obligated to forgive that person. However, it is my duty to follow the law in seeking the appropriate form of justice. What duty? I am governed by federal and state legislations prohibiting vigilante justice. It is, therefore, my legal duty to seek aid from law enforcement, private investigators, and the district attorney, or whatever other legal means are appropriate.

If, however, you incorporate God in government, and you get rid of all double standards, then one would say that I should be able to seek vigilante justice since God destroys all those who destroy the innocent. Since the Ten Commandments is an endeavor in double standards, it necessarily cannot apply in certain areas such as in, Thou Shalt Not Kill.

The Torah actually says, Thou shalt not commit murder. But, if we seek vigilante justice and commit an act of vengeance killing, then how is that not murder?

Furthermore, if God has killed out of vengeance, has he not committed murder?

One might say that there is a double standard because God is perfect and man is not. If that is true, then God should be held to a higher standard of moral perfection, not a lower standard.

Espescially when moral slogans like practice what you preach, reap what you sow, 2 wrongs don't make a right, lead by example, are so rampant.

"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

i guess its satan job to tempt not to destroy. He tempt us to do most of the things that happen around us. we have a choice whether to give in or to refuse his tempting but we are humans, so eventually satan's tempting overcome us. Actually he helps us to case caios then he disappears.

"things dream of can be gained if i work hard enough"

Sounds more like a traveling reality show to me. Next Time on, "THE DEVIL MADE ME DO IT!"

"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

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If God exists and God is omnipotent, omniscient, and morally perfect, then does God destroy or does Satan destroy?

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"Life is full of lemons, and the lemonade is sweet."

"God uses nature to chastise people"

Hmmm, killing equals chastise? So, if a child or loved one of yours is killed in a tornado, will her now naked body parts littering your neighbor's yards, its because she did something to warrant it right?

And Pat, I'll ask this first, like on the site link about Jericho, what was the particular reason for the uprising on the city? I remember it mentioned that God wouldn't destroy it after the effective uprising. So what was the rest of the story behind it.

The reason I ask is because this is another specific referrence to a biblical hero scenario, where tons of people die horrible and gruesome deaths at the hands of out "heroes".

The site specifically mentioned how they killed every person in the city, save one chick and her family, meaning men women and children were slaughtered. But its all ok because he was the hero.

So I would like to know the claimed reason of legitamacy of such an act.

"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

Let's look at how ppl are towards God, and man can the examples be abundant.

Go look at your newscast...how many murders would you see? How many ppl are killing their children?

How many are radically against God??

How many deny His being?

How many are sefl centered, pompous, self fulling buttnoses??

Knowing how society is, (A pack of derelicts) who rape, kill, pillage, theive, lie, and blaspheme God...then YOU tell me...how God can put up with us!!!!

Yep, He has all rights to destroy. And you can require all the answers you want, but if I were to understand His reasoning, and that would be impossible because He is perfection, and mind boogling powerful, but IF I could understand it....HIS REASONS ARE SIMPLE...PPL ARE HATEFUL!!!

Now ya get the picture. AND He has all rights to take the life He gives. Ya dont like it hon...just wait in line for the Hell opening. I hear lots of folks dont mind the wait.

"Life is full of lemons, and the lemonade is sweet."

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One might say that there is a double standard because God is perfect and man is not. If that is true, then God should be held to a higher standard of moral perfection, not a lower standard.

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"Life is full of lemons, and the lemonade is sweet."

We were also given the need to fear our fellow man, apparently because of this grandiose idea of free will that has worked out so well.

He created man as man is by your claims, but yet the actions of the creations suddenly are completely divorced of his doing, his fault.

You rightly mention the ways of man, and with this mentioning of lies and murder, how are we supposed to know believe or understand other things, all our information really comes from other people. Even stories of god come from these other people that we cannot trust.

I just watched your other link, the evolution thing, and found it very informative, and would like to thank you, however there is no room for any conclusions to be made from it.

"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"
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We were also given the need to fear our fellow man, apparently because of this grandiose idea of free will that has worked out so well.

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He created man as man is by your claims, but yet the actions of the creations suddenly are completely divorced of his doing, his fault

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You rightly mention the ways of man, and with this mentioning of lies and murder, how are we supposed to know believe or understand other things, all our information really comes from other people. Even stories of god come from these other people that we cannot trust.

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I just watched your other link, the evolution thing, and found it very informative, and would like to thank you, however there is room for any conclusions to be made from it.

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"Life is full of lemons, and the lemonade is sweet."

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Furthermore, if God has killed out of vengeance, has he not committed murder?

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"Life is full of lemons, and the lemonade is sweet."