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If your a clone do you have a soul?

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Angel Of Death

Yeah, ofcourse we are made up of different organisms.Thats how life evovled in the first place. Simple organisms like these joined to gather to form more complicated organisms and so on. But they are not ' alive' in our sense. They have no concious. They are machines, and we so far don't consider machines to be seperate beings. Asking if we harm these organisms is irellevant. We are them and they are us.
Dude-Yes, God is imcomperhensible.'it seems as if the more we learn in science, the more it makes religion wrong' Yes, but the thing is that Religion was intended for people thousands of years ago. If religion had informed them of the things that we are just starting to disocver, they would have freaked out! So our discovering things that religion does not teach does not make it valid. We are just told the basics in religion, the rest is up to us.


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cturtle

http://www.captaincynic.com/thread.php3/frmid=17-u-thrdid=11376-u-page=2
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I mentioned transplants to direct attention to the fact (?) that just about every physical organ & gland has been transplanted except for the brain? Although a few incidents have arisen which seem to indicate a transfer of soul properties (?) that to most see the mind as being the agent which contains the physical aspect of soul? Such that some think of soul as being which extends beyond the life of the body while others see it ending with the physical body?
Just pointing out a possible definition of soul?


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Angelfire

Assuming there is a soul we're officially sure it is "in" the brain. More then that, it is in one half of the brain. People's brains have been split in two for medical reasons, one side becomes dominant (the one with the soul) and the other houses another?
I think I saw it on a documentary called the alien hand.


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cturtle

With all the types of monitorings and imaging devices, you would wonder if praying, meditating and such had a particular lobe or area to which it is associated?
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Windupnostril

the very essence of a person's mind is the mind itself. when all the thoughts have been cleared away, does the mind itself disappear? what im saying is that thoughts change and experience changes, so mind itself changes as well. yet we still retain some kind of unity at each moment, even though that moment is completely different from the ones before it. so, there must be a connection between moments, and i suppose that this connection is memory of those moments. one other thing that our thoughts have in common is the fact that they can be thought. despite every moment of thought being different, the fact that they are experienced is what makes them all similar. i suppose if i have to give a definition of soul, it would be this very general connection that everybody has, and that is the same in everybody.

as far as the soul being "in" the brain, i don't think that this is true physically. i doubt that there is a "piece" of the brain that can be taken out and labeled "soul." the brain is an ordered system with memory(like a computer) but far more advanced. the inner workings of our brains generate thoughts which require a soul to experience them. so i think that the soul is separate from physical reality and is connected to the physical brain by thought, however that works.


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cturtle

Ah, I guess I'm a bit confused I thought they were able to make certain cooralations(sp) with the right/left halve of the brain and activities with various areas of the brain? So I wondered if some one had made such observations.
Yes I tend to agree with you about the aspects of soul but others tend to see soul simply as an aspect of the brain or mind? Which may exist beyond the body?


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Angelfire

If the soul is transcendental, it clearly must express itself through a part of the brain.
Brainless beings have no soul in any way we think of it and brain damage can hamper the expression of a soul. I think a certain part of the brain is key to the soul's expression.


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Windupnostril

yes, i would agree to that dumbteen. but i think all parts of the brain that are associated with thought work together to "connect" the soul to the physical universe.


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Crackerjack

What is a soul anyways? if its how we act and/or percieve things, then the clone would be different. A clone would have to be grown and live its own life, just like everyone else. If the clone lived with people that just studied it and didnt care for it and just fed it, it would die. people act how they were taught as a very young child.
If a soul is just something we have but does nothing, then whats the point of one. there is a very good possibility that a clone would just have the same DNA, but be very different at heart and how they think and percieve the world as a whole.


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Angelfire

That's bang on IMHO.


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