If there's a god, why is there evil?

"The idea of man being asexual is certainly a stretch. There are no warm blooded mammals that are asexual. This is virtually non supportive of evolution."
I think you misunderstood. He meant that the initial bacteria were asexual and as they complexified eventually they turned into sexual beings.
Rather interesting to think how this would happen. My guess is when an asexual being eventually develloped independent sexual organs (say an organ to keep eggs and another organ that makes the stuff which "activates" them) then that being would eventually have the ability to split in to (for survival, think of marsupials, they give birth early and are able to abandon their offspring earlier if they have to) and that gave us the first thing resembling male and female.

"AIDS is God's way of sending Catholics to heaven."

--"He meant that the initial bacteria were asexual and as they complexified eventually they turned into sexual beings.
Rather interesting to think how this would happen."--

I kinda know how this happened or could shed some light. There are still some bacterias that do this today. It is called confugation. Some bacteria can trade off their DNA with other bacteria by conecting such things called Pili. This is probably what lead to sexual reproduction. (I knew bio would come in handy,though I had to crack out the notebook)

BUT to get back on topic-
--"He concluded that because of the very nature of the universe, the world was as perfect as *possible*. That through some evil now, an even greater amount of good will emerge later because of it."--

I believe that the world is as perfect as possible in the sense that it is/was inhabitable by life and that that life would then be able to co-exist with laws of nature and an equilibrium.

Also, I wish I had some proof that some evil will lead to more good. That sounds like it is a good idea.

"If the opposite of Pro is Con, then is the opposite of Progress, Congress?"

The use of Nukes during WW2. Stopped any further bloodshed. And avoided any bitter invasion the US would have to undergo which would probably make it less keen to help Japan.

Or for example, murdering Geo. Bush Senior before he made Junior

"AIDS is God's way of sending Catholics to heaven."

1 Samuel 16:14-15 But the Spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the Lord troubled him. (15) And Saul's servants said unto him, Behold now, an evil spirit from God troubleth thee.

Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it?

But I do like the scripture quote about there being no evil in the end. I think I know why God made evil, but I can never really know for sure. And I hope also that it is for a good cause ultimatly and believe that it is.

"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

There are definite scriptural references to God creating evil:



Rbi8 Isaiah 45:7



(Ecclesiastes 7:14) On a good day prove yourself to be in goodness, and on a calamitous day see that the [true] God has made even this exactly as that, to the intent that mankind may not discover anything at all after them.



(Isaiah 10:6) Against an apostate nation I shall send him, and against the people of my fury I shall issue a command to him, to take much spoil and to take much plunder and to make it a trampling place like the clay of the streets.



(Jeremiah 18:7) At any moment that I may speak against a nation and against a kingdom to uproot [it] and to pull [it] down and to destroy [it],



(Amos 3:6) If a horn is blown in a city, do not also the people themselves tremble? If a calamity occurs in the city, is it not also Jehovah who has acted?

Did God create Satan to be evil, or did Satan willingly become evil? That's important to determine.

"Woohoo!!Woohoo!!"

We know that there is evil, the question is why. Not how.

"If the opposite of Pro is Con, then is the opposite of Progress, Congress?"

"We know that there is evil, the question is why."
Because an even greater amount of good will arise from it in ways we cannot understand

"AIDS is God's way of sending Catholics to heaven."

Good, then we should talk about that and not sit there and read how evil came about from the bible.

"If the opposite of Pro is Con, then is the opposite of Progress, Congress?"

People think of evil and good in their own concepts of what they are, deriving an idea of the two by their own experiences and what they have read. God is perfect, faith in Him what you need to believe that is true. We can not phathom in our greatest attempts why God did what he did, or what God intends to do with what he created.

Good and Evil will exsist because God said it will and we can not do anything about it. To question God's all power, all knowing and perfection is futile because God's perfection is not even on the same scale as ours. A perfect man in our sight is as a filthy rag compared to God: remembering the belief that God is the creator of man.

The Bible says, Isa 64:6 But we are all as an unclean [thing], and all our righteousnesses [are] as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

The ultimate factor is belief and faith in God.

Once again, The question is not HOW? good and evil came about but WHY?. We aren't saying WILL evil last, we are asking WHY does god want it to last.

"If the opposite of Pro is Con, then is the opposite of Progress, Congress?"

U can never figure out why good and evil are here, they just are.

It is a waste of time to even try to figure out why God created them because God is not to be questioned. Everything God wanted us to know about good and evil is in the Bible. (www.blueletterbible.com) Great Source!

HUGE HOWEVER< THE BIG HOWEVER:::: Thats if you believe and have faith in God and His word. The God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob; THE LORD Jesus Christ. If you dont believe in Jesus you will probably disagree with almost everything I say about evil, truth, God and all aspects of the three.

The way I understand the reason why is that evil is the fertilizer that helps us mature into wisdom.

"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

For a different point of view.... Don't go to this site...

I read through this site and it almost sucked me in. It is very believable. They say they are not Satanists but I think they are. I think Satan himself made this website.

http://www.minitru.org/llf/


Satan is alive and well and thriving on the internet, I should know, I had cybersex with him last night.
just kidding

"I will not persist! I've had it!"

I didn't read *all* of the replys on this thread, but I think I know what you guys are all getting at. To change the direction of the subject slightly, who is to say what is bad or evil? The way I see it is there are only different points of veiw. eg. If you could go back in time to when Hitler was born, could you kill him while he was still young, "before" he ever did anything wrong. (I put before in quotes because tecnicaly he didn't do it yet but he had a %100 chance of doing it in the future, so it's as good as done) If you said that was evil, what would you have said if you were Jewish? Would it still be wrong? Would saving millions of Jews lives be evil if you had to sacrafice one life? Hmm.... Something to marinate on.

""How do you know we exist? Maybe we don't exist." -Vivi FF9"

One more thing! Do you think Hitler thought what he was doing was wrong? Through his eyes, he was doing humanity a favour by creating a master race. Who's to say his point of veiw is more correct than yours or mine?

""How do you know we exist? Maybe we don't exist." -Vivi FF9"