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Obama a thread about Hope and Change.

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 34yrs • M
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Obama a thread about Hope and Change.
Can someone who is better educated on Mr. Obama and what he intends to do explain to me why he is the best man for the job?

I wanted Ron Paul and couldnt pick between Obama and Mccain...

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"334jui8"
 33yrs • M •
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I know that there are many people on this site who are very pro Obama.

Is no one willing to answer his questions?

I mean, in the very least you would be educating someone on an important issue.

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 30yrs • M •
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Lmao, they're very few pro-Obama on this site, they're people who are anti corrupt republicans and anti modern government but from what I know of the people here that are American, they're only 2 of us who voted for him.

P.s. mutnuaq you still could have voted for Ron Paul if I remember correctly he did run for the libertarian party.

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"Whether we wake or we sleep, Whether we carol or weep, The Sun with his Planets in chime, Marketh the going of Time. -Edward Fitzgerald"
 33yrs • M •
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Well, that's not really what I was looking for... I was looking more for information and less for internet slang and DIS-information.

P.s. Bob Barr was the libertarian candidate.

http://www.bobbarr2008.com/

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 30yrs • M •
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Sorry kid, it wasn't meant to be spite full, I just found it funny because I had the opposite impression when I joined this site (I found it it very pro-conservative) and I wasn't sure what party Ron Paul actually ran for but I'm 95% sure I saw him on the Michigan ballet so my guess is independent (but just guessing).

Me I voted for Obama because I'm socialist and the closest thing that you'll ever get elected in this country to a socialist is a extremely liberal democrat. At least this day and age. I find that he's more manipulative then the most politicians these days and that scares me a lot. Although the reputation he carries in Washington as an extremely liberal senator that votes the same on the large issues made me more willing to vote for him.

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"Whether we wake or we sleep, Whether we carol or weep, The Sun with his Planets in chime, Marketh the going of Time. -Edward Fitzgerald"
 43yrs • M
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The only reason I allowed myself to push for Ron Paul to the degree I did based on my sense of trust, is because I had decades of information available on Paul's track record in which to compare to his words.

No such luxury was allowed with Obama, and, the system that so blatantly destroyed an actual explosive and nearly unstoppable grass roots revolution based, not on Paul, but his message, and again, track record, embraced Obama to a degree, on both sides in many cases, that gave further rise to concern and allowed no freedom to entertain associating unsubstantiated trust in a man whose words I had could only hope were sincere.

And interestingly enough, the best thing Obama had going for him, in my view, were indeed some of his radical associations, for those are people expressing knowledge and concern for corruption and conspiracy from posistions of power. Not that I agree with every stance or action taken by said parties of course.

I hoped, and still do, that perhaps, like Decius mentioned, if we were lucky he was out to play the game just long enough to break the cycle and bring some real change.

But, as time goes on and more information comes to light, hopefully the blinding light of hope will give way to some honest reflection on this man and his intentions and seperate what we hope and feel from what is and is perhaps in need of being addressed.

Already more has surfaced, all in varying degrees of uncertainty from my end on either side of the debates for or against them.

From being related to Dick Cheney to questionable circumstances surrounding Michelle's profittable activities, this ride won't be stopping soon and untill more concrete should likely not be the concentrated on factor in judging Obama or his Presidencial directions. Just as his words should not be, as should be the case with respect to any politician.

The easiest and most obvious way to gadge his intentions is through his cabinet selection and political and personal associations.

By this point, it has become painfully obvious that we are embarking on the next Clinton administration, literally if Hillary indeed ends up as Sec. State.

But so far, Clintonians, CFR, and Zionists galore appear to take up most of the seats, as well as being the most prominent as well as the most troubling that I have come across.

Keeping Defense Sec. Gates should be an obvious red flag as well.

And for me, of course, I have to take into account the seemingly undeniable fact, unfortunately, that the Presidential election is as rigged as both sides continually claim it to be, just never about their own party, as it has been likely since the beginning and therefore I find myself unable to put any unquestionable stock in any successfully elected candidate.

And trust me, I would have been watching Dr. Paul like a hawk as well had that gone that way.

But if we just put trust in stated posistions, even those backed by some form of official record, without accounting for intentional and both hidden and open manipulation by sources of power and influence, then we have already lost and all of this is truly pointless.

For we cannot survive if we continue to exclude this true third party of our political system

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"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"
 40yrs • M •
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I am canadian but i try to keep up on global politics. I think Oboma Is Simply a talking head He is likely to be just as corrupted as any one else involved in most political partys. We need to realise that north American Politics and consumption has had serious social and environmental impact of a negative sort. This has been true since its birth as an empire. Most Empires have just settled for social impact of positve and negative results but it takes a real empire like Rome and America to (salt the earth). The American empire has even gone as far as salting its own earth as well as its friends and enemys alike. it encourages over consumption of all resources to stuff the minority of people in the world. Baroque obama Is soon to be the talking head of this monsterous system. The question is not What obama will do when he enters office. The real question is whom or what does he serve. We all know about the obscene ratio of lobyists to elected officials in washington. Will Obama remedy this corruption of democracy? What will obama do to remedy the patriot act? hmmmmm. we will see about that wont we. Their are so many things that George Bush has done that has under mined the constitution dand the "democratic" ideals this country claims to represent. As President I think that obama will be able to get away with bloody murder and still look like the Good Cop. Be very watchfull with this one wolf dressed in sheeps clothing. Do you think that he was chosen by the people? No he was chosen long before the election. Do you actually think that People in the U.S. would have elected an even older more fuddy than duddy of a man to replace an old fuddy duddy? the man was a Dud him and Sarah palin. It suited the desires of those who hold the reighns to have a young, black idealist as their spokesperson for the next 8 years. Then we will probably wind up with arnold schwartsnegger as pres wouldnt that trip you out ehe.
I will warn you all though if that man gets assassinated it will likely be planned by those who hold the reigns and kaaaaabooom. the feces shall hit the fan

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 40yrs • M •
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By the way I agree with Iron woods main point. You guys need to elect the third party. that would at least be a start. For The American public to elect the third party would take a great deal of awakening on the part of the people of the U.S, In the end Though I believe that party politics are one of the main things holding us back from realising the dream of democracy

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 34yrs • M
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ok months later still hopin for change on the hope bandwagon or do u realize he is as ignorant as everyone feared?

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"334jui8"
Obama a thread about Hope and Change.
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