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God being the generator of space, is beyond space and therefore, can never be imagined

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15 Posts / 29M
     :   34yrs   :  
dattaswami

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God being the generator of space, is beyond space and therefore, can never be imagined

The unimaginable God is beyond the four-dimensional model of space and time. You can imagine the dissolution of matter converting into energy filling the space. Subsequently you can imagine the disappearance of energy in the space and the result is final vacuum. But, even if you try for your lifetime, you can never imagine the disappearance of vacuum.

God being the generator of space is beyond space and therefore, can never be imagined. If you have to imagine God, the pre-requisite is the imagination of disappearance of space or vacuum. Of course space is a form of very fine energy and in this context the word energy used by Me can be taken as crude form of energy. The only knowledge about God is that He is beyond the knowledge (Yasyaamatam… Veda).


115 Posts / 12M
     :   36yrs   :  
Adam Seth God

Your "God" is and must be a being like yourself... that's why you capitalize your self reference... (Me)...

Saying god imagining the existence cannot be then concieved of by the creation is like saying a character in a story cannot concieve of the author...

Why not?

To describe a yellow pencil... you must subjugate yourself to the limits of the nouns and the adjectives...

By describing reality or existence your version of "God" has limited "his/her" expression... therefore limited "his/her" perameters...

Of course you will say that this existence is not the limit of the "God"... but this existence is the only evidence you have of anything at all.. you have no other evidence of any other existences...

Therefore

You have no proof of any further expanse of "God" beyond this existence...

"He or She" is limited to the characters of the story "He or She" has decided to tell...

The soul you attempt to mystify with is merely an attempt at an out of body experience for the MIND of human beings...

You cannot set off an atom bomb by thinking however hard about e = mc squared... you must go through the steps to do it...

mystic connectivity to the natural forces through prayer and meditation is likened unto a mild tantrum or fit... however civilized it may be.


"\\\"The Empty Vessel Makes The Most Noise\\\" - Shakespear"

48 Posts / 19M
     :   17yrs   :  
Tazzlyn

I've had thoughts like that before, because every time I see a picture of the Judeo-Christian God, I think to myself...doesn't it say somewhere that you should not depict said God and that this God is above thought and cannot be conceived or understood on any level of consciousness? I'm not a Biblical scholar or anything, but I think those are mentioned somewhere, like you said.

And it just further led me against the belief of such a God. If this God is beyond said thought and the only thing known about this God is that this God is beyond our perception, then what is the point, exactly? Why even bother acknowledging such a thing? And does it not just make you want to turn the other direction and say the probability of such a God is very small?

This being - who is beyond just being a being, I can't even conceive him, so when I say this, I'm speaking as if I CAN - created everything is all knowing, omnipotent and powerful.........

But you can't conceive this God in any sense.

It makes no sense to me. I just don't think it makes sense -period-. It seems to me, it's proving the likelihood of this God's NONexistance. You're putting this God (in the logical and reasonable person's mind) in a position that compares it in a way that proves dragons, unicorns and jackalopes more likely to exist, because we can actually imagine such things and create an image, a smell, a feel, a taste, a sound...we can use our senses to consider such things to exist, whereas with said God, we can't.


"Inspire."

6 Posts / 2M
     :   18yrs   :  
midnightpanther

Hmmm... I think what your arguing over is silly.

The base of it is "Does God exist or not?"

"Can he be imagined?" Yes, but whatever you can think of to describe God is only a drop of water in a swimmingpool compared to His greatness. We can never understand or imagine Him completely. The closest any human would ever get to imagining Him would still be just a grain of sand on a beach.

The bible says, and I'm paraphrasing, "if a human were to see and/or understand God, His magnifisence would kill them."

Even if you COULD fathom His magnificence, you wouldn't live to tell anyone about it!

That's why Abraham only saw a burning bush. It was a fraction of a fraction of His power, and yet it caused Abraham, if you'll read, to age som years. He went in a young man and came out looking, maybe, 20 to 40 years older.

The question is silly. Can we fathom God? NO! But that doesn't mean He doesn't exist!! That's like saying "I can't see Scotland from here, so it must not exist."

Ever tried explaining color to someone born blind?
Ever tried to explain sound to someone born deaf?

They can't comprehend it because they have no point of reference. They've never experienced anything even minutely simmilar! To them, It doesn't exist!!

God falls into the same category of unfathomable-ness.

Unless the person born blind can see, they'll never understand the concept of color.

Unless the person born deaf is able to hear for at least a second, they'll never grasp the idea of sound.

Unless you can see God in person, you'll never be able to grasp His enormity.

Stop arguing over silly little things. It just proves how little you know of the overall subject.


"Just because your an adult, doesn't mean you can be a dumbass."

93 Posts / 10M
     :   31yrs   :  
doom123

who's to say god is outside of space and that hes the generator of it, or that hes separate from us at all? maybe individuality is just an illusion. where did you get this information? if he is unimaginable then how do you know the information you are telling us now is right or wrong? if you have an outlook of skepticism i believe that its pointless to discuss because no matter how deep you get into it, its all just a guess and a waste of time.


"if life has no point whats the point in talking about it?"

18 Posts / 3M
     :   43yrs   :  
NATuralMan

relax people, this guy is a copy/paste and boogie poster.

I've seen his garbage all over the web, and he is banned from several forums that I post to as well.


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