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IRAN - Two letters from congressmen, a resolution and a prophesy

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 64yrs • M •
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IRAN - Two letters from congressmen, a resolution and a prophesy
Two Congressmen Write The President Concerning Iran

Kucinich's letter to President Bush:

Dear President Bush:

Recently, it has been reported that U.S. troops are conducting military operations in Iran. If true, it appears that you have already made the decision to commit U.S. military forces to a unilateral conflict with Iran, even before direct or indirect negotiations with the government of Iran had been attempted, without UN support and without authorization from the U.S. Congress.

The presence of U.S. troops in Iran constitutes a hostile act against that country. At a time when diplomacy is urgently needed, it escalates an international crisis. It undermines any attempt to negotiate with the government of Iran. And it will undermine U.S. diplomatic efforts at the U.N.

Furthermore, it places U.S. troops occupying neighboring Iraq in greater danger. The achievement of stability and a transition to Iraqi security control will be compromised, reversing any progress that has been cited by the Administration.

It would be hard to believe that such an imprudent decision had been taken, but for the number and variety of sources confirming it. In the last week, the national media have reported that you have in fact commenced a military operation in Iran. Today, retired Air Force Col. Sam Gardiner related on CNN that the Iranian Ambassador to the IAEA, Aliasghar Soltaniyeh, reported to him that the Iranians have captured dissident forces who have confessed to working with U.S. troops in Iran. Earlier in the week, Seymour Hersh reported that a U.S. source had told him that U.S. marines were operating in the Baluchi, Azeri and Kurdish regions of Iran.

Any military deployment to Iran would constitute an urgent matter of national significance. I urge you to report immediately to Congress on all activities involving American forces in Iran. I look forward to a prompt response.

Sincerely, Dennis J. Kucinich Member of Congress

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DeFazio's letter to President Bush:

Dear President Bush:

We are concerned by the growing number of stories that your Administration is planning for military action against Iran. We are writing to remind you that you are constitutionally bound to seek congressional authorization before launching any preventive military strikes against Iran.

As you know, Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution grants Congress the power "to declare war," to lay and collect taxes to "provide for the common defense" and general welfare of the United States, to "raise and support armies," to "provide and maintain a navy," to "make rules for the regulation for the land and naval forces," to "provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the Union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions," to "provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia," and to "make all laws necessary and proper for carrying into execution...all...powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States." Congress is also given exclusive power over the purse. The Constitution says, "No money shall be drawn from the Treasury but in consequence of appropriations made by law."

By contrast, the sole war powers granted to the Executive Branch through the President can be found in Article II, Section 2, which states, "The President shall be the Commander-in-Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into actual Service of the United States..."

Your Administration has argued that this "Commander-in-Chief" clause grants the President wide latitude to engage U.S. military forces abroad without prior authorization from Congress. You further argue that previous unilateral actions by presidents of both political parties add credence to your interpretation of the U.S. Constitution.

Contrary to your Administration's broad reading, nothing in the history of the "Commander-in-Chief" clause suggests that the authors of the provision intended it to grant the Executive Branch the authority to engage U.S. forces in military action whenever and wherever it sees fit without any prior authorization from Congress. The founders of our country intended this power to allow the President to repel sudden attacks and immediate threats, not to unilaterally launch, without congressional approval, large-scale preventive military actions against foreign threats that are likely years away from materializing. With respect to Iran, according to the most definitive U.S. intelligence report, Iran is likely a decade away from developing a nuclear weapon. Even the most pessimistic analysis by outside experts puts the timeline at least three years away, but that's only if everything in Iran's development program proceeds flawlessly, which would defy the history of nuclear programs around the world, including Iran's.

The architects of the U.S. Constitution were well aware of government models, like the monarchy in Great Britain, which vested the power to go to war with the head of state. Instead, the Founding Fathers made a conscious decision to grant the solemn war-making powers to the Legislative Branch. The intent of the authors of the U.S. Constitution is clear.

In the Federalist Paper Number 69, while comparing the lesser war-making power of the U.S. president versus the King of Great Britain, Alexander Hamilton wrote, "...the President is to be commander-in-chief of the Army and Navy of the United States. In this respect his authority would be nominally the same with that of the King of Great Britain, but in substance much inferior to it. It would amount to nothing more than the supreme command and direction of the military and naval forces, as first General and admiral of the Confederacy; while that of the British king extends to the declaring of war and to raising and regulating of fleets and armies, all which, by the Constitution under consideration, would appertain to the legislature."

James Madison declared that it is necessary to adhere to the "fundamental doctrine of the Constitution that the power to declare war is fully and exclusively vested in the legislature."

In 1793, President George Washington, when considering how to protect inhabitants of the American frontier, instructed his Administration that "no offensive expedition of importance can be undertaken until after [Congress] have deliberated upon the subject, and authorized such a measure."

In 1801, Thomas Jefferson sent a small squadron of frigates to the Mediterranean to protect against possible attacks by the Barbary powers. He told Congress that he was "unauthorized by the Constitution, without the sanction of Congress, to go beyond the line of defense." He further noted that it was up to Congress to authorize "measures of offense also."

While presidents in the latter half of the 20th Century have initiated military action without prior authorization by Congress, "everybody does it" is not a legitimate defense to ignore the plain words of the U.S. Constitution, the clear intent of the authors of the U.S. Constitution, and more than 150 years of legal precedent.

We also want to go on record that the Authorization of Force Resolution (Public Law 107-40) approved by Congress to go after those responsible for the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on our country does not, explicitly or implicitly, extend to authorizing military action against Iran over its nuclear program. The legislation specifically says, "The President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations, or persons." There is no evidence that Iran was involved in the September 11, 2001, attacks. Nor is there any evidence that Iran harbored those who were responsible for the attacks.

Further, the Authorization of Force Resolution (Public Law 107-243) approved by Congress to go to war with Iraq does not extend to military action against Iran over its nuclear program. This resolution only authorized you to "(1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and (2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq." Like P.L. 107-40, there is no explicit or implicit authorization on the part of Congress in P.L. 107-243 that would allow you to attack Iran without first coming to Congress to seek a new authorization.

When asked about reports of your administration planning for war with Iran, you said on April 10, 2006, "It [prevention] doesn't mean force, necessarily. In this case, it means diplomacy." We agree with the focus on diplomacy. But, we want to be clear, should you decide that force is necessary, seeking congressional authority prior to taking military action against Iran is not discretionary. It is legally and constitutionally necessary.

Sincerely, PETER DeFAZIO Member of Congress

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In addition, Congressman Peter DeFazio (D-OR) intends to introduce a resolution "expressing the sense of the Congress that the President cannot initiate military action against Iran without congressional authorization" soon, and is forwarding his letter to other House members to collect additional signatures.

This information was can be found on RAWSTORY.

Monday, April 17th 2006 10:53 PM

Jonah the prophet proved that prophesy does not always come true - On May 17th of the year (?) - Lets hope for a click twords balance and nothing bad happens

Time Wave Zero 2012 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TIMEWAVEZERO2012/message/12699
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The message relayed to me a few days ago was..."Fire when ready in Iran, May 17th". I am not sure what will happen on this date., or even if it pertains to this May 17th, but it will most likely be major in nature in one way or another. I am extremely hopeful it will not be a nuclear attack as some have been speculating lately.
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This is going all over the Internet, so if you catch a glimpse of this and wish to read the origin of it, here it is. I only ask that you be open minded, watchful, prayful and or meditate on this.

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 72yrs • M •
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An e-mail which I subscribe:
quote:
This action page is brought to you by the activism of Marcy Winograd, running for Congress in the 36th District of California:

STOP THE BUNKER BUSTER-TYPE SIMULATION JUNE 2ND IN NEVADA

ACTION PAGE: http://winogradforcongress.com/actions/pnum266.asp

In a recent issue of the New Yorker magazine, investigative journalist Seymour Hersh reported teams of American combat troops are being sent into Iran under cover to collect information on military targets, such as underground storage bunkers. The decision to attack may already have been made.

Meanwhile, the Department of Energy is preparing for a 700-ton conventional bomb detonation ("Divine Strake" on June 2, 2006, on the Western Shoshone Native American reservation (which the tribe strongly opposes) in Nevada, as a preliminary for the use of actual nuclear weapons against Iran. If launched, a nuclear "bunker buster" would spew harmful radiation, potentially killing thousands of innocent people.

The Bush administration seems bent on destabilizing the globe. It behooves every member of Congress to take a strong stand against a pre-emptive strike on Iran. Bullying Iran, talking about "regime change", and simulating large-scale explosions in the Nevada desert will only undermine diplomatic efforts.

ACTION PAGE: http://winogradforcongress.com/actions/pnum266.asp

Winograd's opponent, Jane Harman, remains non-committal on the subject of US air strikes against Iran.

American intelligence agencies and the International Atomic Energy Agency (I.A.E.A.), agree Iran ultimately wants to produce nuclear weapons. But intelligence officials and the I.A.E.A disagree on how long it would take for Iran to become a nuclear power. Critics of the Bush administration argue Iran is several years away from developing a nuclear weapon.

"The United States has adopted a nuclear double standard," says Winograd, pointing out that the Bush administration wants to build 125 new nuclear bombs each year. Says Winograd, "If we really want to ensure peace and tranquility for our children and our children's children, if we really want to discourage Iran from pursuing nuclear weapons, then we should honor our commitment to the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty, denounce the first use of nuclear weapons and model for the world our commitment to reducing our nuclear arsenal."

Winograd also expresses concerns about the military's circumvention of Congress's authority to declare war. "By sending scouts into Iran to collect data on military targets, the Bush administration is preparing for war and undermining the constitutional powers of Congress. Every lawmaker who sits on the House and Senate Intelligence Committees should denounce the Bush administration for jeopardizing our national security."

Winograd is challenging incumbent Congresswoman Jane Harman in the Democratic Party Primary, June 6th. During the campaign, Winograd has criticized Harman, a member of the House Intelligence Committee, for not adequately scrutinizing pre-war intelligence analysts' objections to the invasion of Iraq. http://winogradforcongress.com/niequotes.htm

"I will vote to cut funding for the Iraq war and bring the troops home," vows Winograd. "I will reject the Bush doctrine of pre-emptive war and engage the nation in redefining the meaning of security."

To contribute, endorse, or volunteer to Winograd for Congress, please visit http://www.winogradforcongress.com

Please take action NOW, so we can win all victories that are supposed to be ours, and forward this message to everyone else you know.

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 64yrs • M •
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Thanks Clay - I will post this on my blog - I've been looking for something like this. I brought it up at the VFP meeting and all we could do was shrug our shoulders - but now this is something - thanks, I sent my letters.

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 64yrs • M •
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For some odd reason I thought it was May 6th, but I look again and see its the 17th.

Do you know awful it would be if we nuke Iran?

I heard this song on Democracy Now! and I'm like WOW!

"You can bomb the world to pieces but you cannot bomb it to peace."

I figured out how to FTP in Linux - and here it is folks:

http://theinsideout.us/okcitykid/politics/bombtheworld.mp3

Harry Chapin has been reincarnated and his name is Michael Franti.

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IRAN - Two letters from congressmen, a resolution and a prophesy
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