Does "Illogical" Exist?

Does "Illogical" Exist? [+ favourites]

Christians say God can do "anything". Even the illogical things.

They say there is no such thing as "illogical", we are just incapable of understanding unlike God.

What do you think? Does the concept of "Illogical" exist?

"Anything is Possible when you think illogically."

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Christians say God can do "anything". Even the illogical things.

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They say there is no such thing as "illogical", we are just incapable of understanding unlike God.

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What do you think? Does the concept of "Illogical" exist?

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"To wish for death is a coward's part." [Timidi est optare necem.] Ovid"

the conept of illogical does exist, as illogical describes thought proccess and reasons rather than actual physical things. 2 + 2 = 4 is logical, therefore it is illogical to say 2 + 2 = 5. whether or not god can make the latter true is somewhat stupid, god may be able to do so, but whether he would want to is more to the point.

"So Schrodinger's Cat is not only neither dead nor alive, but might also be sexually aroused by elbows and peanut butter?"

I think that I believe (not sure still pending) that even the illogical side of our understanding is logical to God. If he is in existence he must be able to make anything work. Even if it makes no sense what so ever. I think that it far more interesting to think anything really is possible when it comes down to it. Of course there is no way to prove such things, just food for thought.

"Anything is Possible when you think illogically."

There is no such thing as illogical in the dimension we exist in. Hence, any claim as being illogical will undoubtedly be proven to be logical without exception.

2+2 =5 is illogical in the scientific world and therefore does not exist there. It may exist to one or more people, not because they base their belief on science but on some other criteria. Whatever that criteria is, it will logically assert that 2+2=5. Such a criteria can even be based in attempting to comprehend the realm of illogic. Yet, even attempts at such concepts are in themselves logical... and hence any scientifically illogical conclusions created as a result are logically created by science plus the desire to explore the scientifically illogical realm.

Hence, there is no such thing as illogic. Everything is the result of premises or seeming randomness that is eventually proven as another premise as more investigation is done and permitted.

This is why Christianity is flawed. Whether illogic exists in (or in combination of) other dimensions, it does not in this dimension. Therefore, it is illogical for any form of entity to expect us people caged in a logical world to believe something illogical. Everything else that surrounds us compells us and forces us to accept logic as the truth of existence.

The excuse that this is a "test in faith" is irrelevent: Our purposes in this life cannot be to be tested in our ability to readily accept and absorb insanity (AKA illogic). If this was the case, then absorbing illogic would have no boundaries and by their own admission Christians would be unable to condemn a father for eating his newborn, for he also is accepting a form of illogic.

One must have a doctrine of logic or a doctrine of illogic. The two spheres cannot intersect. This is the primary flaw in every Abrahamian religion. They have rules that are logical, and a few that are illogical, yet it must all be obeyed for clearly logical reasons.

This is unnacceptable, unstable, and unsubstantiated in the 3rd dimension.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

Similarly how darkness is really a lack of light, illogic is a lack of logic...

"I love to see people struggling for their purpose in life..."

is that agreeing or disagreeing. darkness does exist, in the same way as emptiness exists, they are just not maleable objects. it could just as well be that logic does not exist, both are human concepts. for illogic truly not to exist, there could also be no logic, (following the arguement everyone uses for the existence of evil) you couldnt have one without the other, or at least you would not recognise it.

"So Schrodinger's Cat is not only neither dead nor alive, but might also be sexually aroused by elbows and peanut butter?"

Illogic is not the absense of logic.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

Illogic is the absense of Reason.
Reason is Logic.
Illogic is the absense of Logic.

"Anything is Possible when you think illogically."

You guys are ridiculous. Illogic exists as a true concept. It is not described by the absense of logic. Illogic is defined as a conclusion that does not equate the premises that result in it. Logic is defined as a conclusion that is the result of its premises.

If they are both definite methods of thinking then neither is the absense of the other even though they are opposing methods of belief.

Christianity is not the absense of Hinduism even though they are defined in many ways that oppose one another.

Don't argue stupid shit for the sake of semantics. If you want to have linguistic battles do it in the mirror.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

I don't care to argue about it.
I'll let the dictionary do it for me.

il·log·ic ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-ljk)
n.
1. A lack of logic.
Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

"Anything is Possible when you think illogically."

illogic
n : invalid or incorrect reasoning [syn: illogicality, illogicalness] [ant: logicality]
Source: WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University

Illogic is incorrect logic, not the lack of it.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

Looks like we are both right. ^^

I searched like 10+ different dictionaries and half said your definition and half said mine.

Oh well

Basically my definition of it always has been "senselessness" or for example:
For a red square to be a black circle while remaining a redsquare and never becoming a black circle, while being nothing all at the same time.

Makes no sense.. and my point..

"Anything is Possible when you think illogically."

Zato...

There is sometimes a difference in the literal definition of a word and what the word's concept is. There is no point in arguing about the literal definition of it but rather the applied concept.

The applied concept is obviously not defined by a lack of logic. it is defined as being the opposite of logical.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

Someone does something that someone else says is illogical...the person later on sees the point of the other person but yet they originally saw logic in it their action. People always see some logic in a course of action even though it isn't necessarily the most correct thing in a given situation. If illogic was the opposite of logic it would be an equal and opposite action...

"I love to see people struggling for their purpose in life..."