More guys than girls on these forums...why?

"Using high school as a meter to determine a girl's intelligence versus guys is irrational." It isn't irrational, it's insufficient. But so is any one else's claim to some degree. I'm not saying I'm right.

"In high school women are far more insecure than men are and are pushed that way by the close proximity of social interraction." And what stops them after highschool?

"Given similar scenarios (a room filled with women and a few guys) such as home economics, you would easily find the women surpassing the men at everything they do." Yes to a degree I'll agree because I feel that the men in the class wouldn't be interested in doing well in it. If so I believe the men could do equally as well.

"Dark and silent and complete."

I never said you were right. I am saying the basis of your insuficient claim is rationally skewed for easy to see reasons which makes it less valid.

"close proximity of social interraction" - I already explained the reason.

Men being interested in it or not is irrelevent. It's the need to compete that is the point. Women in high school who are seemingly intelligent are treated differently than men... especially since the men in those intelligent classes are generally anti-social to begin with.

But this was all implied by my last post. There is no need to qualify it.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

Talking to you is like talking to a wall.

"I never said you were right." No shit.
Had you said I was right and I thought I was right do you believe I'd have defended myself and better tried to convey my thoughts even though they seemed to come acrossed succesfully?! Start thinking please.

"I am saying the basis of your insuficient claim is rationally skewed for easy to see reasons which makes it less valid." It is no more skewed than any one elses claim. No one will fully know if there is any real reason for more men being on CC. To make any claim and believe it to be sufficiently supported is foolhardy. Too many variables in human behavior and thought acrossed the world to take any number of them and believe statistics are correct.

"Men being interested in it or not is irrelevent. It's the need to compete that is the point." If one isn't interested one isn't feeling the need to compete. If you feel the need to compete then you will be interested yes? It isn't just competition with peers that drive people as you are making it out to be.

"But this was all implied by my last post. There is no need to qualify it." Modifying your meaning is part of communication. If you don't feel the need to communicate with me then don't respond directly to my posts.

"Dark and silent and complete."

Fool, if you say you think girls are less intelligent than men because they have smaller feet then your hypothesis would be more flawed than an intelligent one. Your claim that your rationale is as "valid" as anyone else's is stupid, for the reasons I just pointed out.

Competition is what drives almost everything. If a man feels uninterested in home ec, that's because he does not feel competitive about it, not the other way around.

It is my responsibility to prevent people from using methods of distortion to confuse others. And so, my responses are not aimed at you even if it may seem that way.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

I say it has little to do with gender these days and more to do with how the person grew up. More to do with nurture(sp?), not nature.

""Life without knowledge is like death in disguise..." - MC HP"
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itz true u no, i go 2 a girls only school, and it is really hard to get a good converstation out of ppl. and there's no reason for other girls to get offended, im not saying girls cant think, i mean if u put them into those kind of conversations, they could come out with some really good answers, itz just that, not many do. maybe itz coz not many are intrested in the topics discussed here at CC.

"There is a thin line between bravery and stupidity"

U know, girls shame us guys, whilst we sit around thinking and talking they get on with the doing. Girls think within the box more than us generally; if we had more balls to get out and and put our words into practice there would be no argument. But generally speaking; we don't.

""No words""

Ok three things:
1. Heyjme1 is some what correct. Instead of being home sitting infront of a screen talking or chating with faceless stragers some girls are out experiencing the world first hand. Getting involved in school stuff and just being active, while some guys just stay at home building a relationship with a screen. [Not all guys]
2. your not taking into account that for the girls that like being online there are hundreds of online threads that cater to there specific interest.
3. Your not considering the girls who are members of CC but just not as active as the ones you counted.

as you can see this is just a shorter version of the explanation I sent you .

*women are more focussed on finding a "son" to care for.*
Oh and Decius, I'm not sure what kind of women you meet but the ones I know are not looking for mens who will be there sons! A statement I found insulting...

"What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive"

That isn't what he meant by it.

""Life without knowledge is like death in disguise..." - MC HP"

It's a deep psychology that isn't conscious. It's instinctual. Your cerebral cortex holds your decision making power... the things you've learnt from conception till now.

But the rest of your brain is the result of millions of years of evolution. And deep in there you can't really tell what it is that you're instinctually supposed to do or what will satisfy you because it's clouded by the unwieldly power of your cerebral cortex.

But if you focus and clarify the thinking part and examine the instinctual part, you will see that most men yearn to provide and alter the world so that their female counterparts (who play the part of their mother figures) are protected and safe. Hence, they are more likely to come to place like this which is geared towards educating and changing the world for the better.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

"interesting" concept, flawed in some ways...but everyone's entitled to their own views on human nature.

"What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive"

I can see the angle from which Decius is approaching this. And he is right, but I don't think he's painting the whole tableau. I could be wrong, one stab would be I couldn't say what emotionally healthy is since there are a plethera of things in life that make you what you are; a product of your environments.

We've had the ladder theory up here. You may wish to check this as a backbone. However, it only gives the bones, though it does scratch on how many sexuals partners one would have, moreso the quality of those partners, it doesnt really dig into why.

See I think there comes a point, a transgression, which varies in time for each individual, or in some cases just exists as the end point, whereby one is looking to settle doen and produce a stable family. For some its 20, 30, 40, 50 and it vearies mostly in men. Women like the men who give them what they need and piss off because unpredictability is attractive; essentially its a sign of self power. And to women, a man needs self power. I personally prefer the term self respect...don't try and run a marathon if u havnt tried to run a mile . It all starts with you.

Now bad guys, tough guys, crazy guys, artistic guys, expressive guys, these are all the type of personality that are unpredictable The first few there are alos dominant in behaviour.These guys women will get tired of because they wont produce a 'healthy' family to nurture. This is where Decius' point comes in. However, its not so much boys really, as men who have stance in society, particularly, those hwo have god jobs, nice cars plus the keyword....reliability, they must be predictable otherwise the family could break down. Though Decius is right, its not really what you say but the way you say or phrase what you say.

Decius make a point for the female influence on 'boys' and yes I've seen this as an observation. Its leargely true but schooling can do the same things.

For me, theres a much more deeper lesson than all this surficila psycholgy. I like people, I can see their strengths. I prefer to build strengths and let them flourish so the person can gain acceptance of themselves and further themselves.

I promise you, it doesnt really matter what type of personality, who you've been brought up by, what matters is how much resolve you can muster to build up your strengths to change yourself for the better. And...how good your friends are. Afterall, if all this psychology stuff is true, is it not better to stop analysing others and just get better by judging yourself BUT with the AIM of progression?

This links nicely to the first post; some ask why, some ask why not? Guys...Are our women doing more of the latter than us?

""No words""

Questioning why is the first and necessary step towards any progression. Without the 'why' the goal is reached by pure luck, and rarely in most cases. Each and every event must be properly categorized, especially at a younger age, so that one can keep their direction towards whatever their progression is focused.

More women tend to not question their surroundings or the world because that is the purpose of those that would protect and provide for them. Hence, it is more likely for a man to seek to be informed (for information provides foresight... foresight provides power and strength). If women do not question as readily as men, then they feel it less important.

The importance of my view on the ideal relationship between a man and a women is that it is applicable in every sense. And it is logically expressed in bad relationships as well as good relationships. What a woman wants out of a man in regards to his ability to be powerful and strong is nearly identical to the desires a mother has for her son. The realization of the relationship is of course different, but the vector of the attraction is nearly identical.

But that is another conversation. Suffice to say that women are more likely to expect men to seek information out than men are to expect women. This ties into the nature of their relationship, and the end result is a saturation of men rather than women in the areas of social intellectualism.

I am certain that if this forum were dedicated to the psychology of keeping the family intact (which is just as important as sociology or general psychology) you would find this forum far more flooded with females.

Hence, we gravitate where our positions' fulfillment lies.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

I can see your view Decius and its truthful.

What happens when the son gets sufficient power and strength to stop wanting to ask why all the time? There must come a point, in very few, where they must realise, that its necessary with depth of insight to start promoting for the benefit of others. Once self respect is sufficient its good to spill it out so others can come along. This is the best man figure, or daddy type. The mother may nurture the son naturally, but the man must help out to give courage, by example and word. It doesnt necessarily have to be a mom or dad, but a woman or a man. This is where I say that, yes, us men do analyse and seek information. And ,yes, women do things more naturally to help sustain. Sometimes, the man is too weak or the woman is too insufficient. But why does it have to be this way.

My point is more a progression on this understanding I guess. And wih this 'why not' attitude once the whys have been accepted; we as people will be getting somewhere...and rightly!

""No words""

I think the communication of this information is a natural necessity of being a man. It is a logical fact that we as a species must progress and that no one person can improve the life of him and his mate without the joint efforts of society as a whole. Of course, given enough money he can try but the fact is we are all sharing the same planet.

Hence, an emotionally healthy man, in an effort to be strong and protect his mate will be drawn towards communicating intelligence to others and absorbing it himself.

In fact, this concept is pretty unnecessary since the process of absorbing information always undoubtedly involves sharing your own information as well. In sharing that information, be it by example or literally, one learns and teaches at the same time.

In the end, it all comes down to the sharing of information. Men are more interested in this because it is a clear necessity of being a good provider.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."