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3280 Posts / 110M
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Decius

I can't really explain it... it just doesn't seem like an achievement. I didn't say it didn't take discipline (as dogshit eating itself is probably an art form somewhere) but it doesn't feel like an achievement to me.


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summit

If you cannot understand that there is something in people which responds to a challenge and goes out to meet it, then you won't see why they go, and why it may be an achievement. If you don't understand a challenge then your obviously blind to the motives of parkour. Such as fitness, gymnastics, freedom, martial arts, climbing skills, physical agility, elegance, mental dedication, and risk taking. Parkour isn't a fashion phenonomen, its an evolution of the mind.


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This one is pretty good. Include footage in a shopping mall.




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Wyote

saying parkour isn't an achievement is like saying learning how to skate or ski isn't an achievement. eating dogshit is definately an achievement on some level, but the degredation of it kind of negates what little of an achievement it is.


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Decius

The organization of ability and concentration is an achievement when it is fueled into an activity that comes from within. This looks like skateboarding and surfing, where a small number of people may do it because their souls cry out for it. But as it becomes a phenom (as it seems to be with some people) it degrades into nothing more than a dick measuring contest.

Which is what this is and will become.


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Decius

I mean really... if you love it why video tape it? Those who do do it to portray themselves as badasses. It'd be more believable as a "evolution of mind" (LOL) if it was a pansy activity that wasn't cool in any way. Wonabees.


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summit

Wow your mini blog seems to reflect the appitamy of why you really care about regurgitating useless information. Perhaps get some fresh air outside and get your legs moving it really 'evolves your mind'


Funnily enough that you wish to reject learning and portray your naivity towards parkour, or even other sports. If you confine your naivity, the boundary will shrink to accommodate itself to your sheer lacking level of understanding.


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Decius

See? It's already taken form inside you. You think that because I don't like parkour and think it's a fag poser activity that I'm a loser that stays inside all day.

The first step towards elitism.

"Fuck that shit bro... I could out parkour your ass anyday. Wessiiiiiiide!"


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summit

Elitism won't accomplish much, nor will wrongfully prejudging anyone or any type of activity. The essence of parkour is not about posing, if thats how you want to prejudge it as. If you are open enough to listen then you will learn. Parkour is about the rythmic elegance of mind and body. Understanding the philosophy of Parkour, is more than simple movement or performance of the movement. Parkour requires fludity, balance and smoothness. Its about focusing your attention to your mind, more than to the outside physical world. Its about following your own path, your intuition, to make progress step by step. Not to forget that its a hell of a lot of fun.


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Wyote

dont all competitions degenerate down to "dick measuring" contests as they become phenoms? surfing, skating and parkour are still aesthetically pleasing to many unfamiliar with them and still require a certain level of achievement, yes? if a person finds something intriguing, it should not be assumed that they will pursue or even support it.


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Decius

Okay, let me qualify then: This activity, along with anthing that vents one's passion, is beautiful and spectacular.

The poser fags in these videos along with the fans of these videos do not like the activity for these beautiful and spectacular reasons.

Hence, admiring one for his physical ability to perform such acts is fine, but limited to the physical body which is like seeing a freak show. These people are not artists, or "Evolved in the mind". They are poser fags with nothing better to do except use their bodies to try to feel more secure with themselves.

The difference between the unison of body and mind in physical and mental acuteness and this stylized horseshit cannot be understated.

That being said, those that do parkour for themselves, for their souls, for the art or physical challenge, have no need for others' approval and therefore, have no need to be seen as "cool".

It's pathetic to idolize posers. You're falling for the same old tricks.


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Wyote

i do agree. yet parkour would not be witnessed by nearly as many if it werent for these poser fags. i personally would be completely oblivious to it. they do only serve to spread parkour as a phenom though...


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summit

Decius, if you consider these people to be 'posers' but then simutaneously stating that it may be beautiful and spectacular, negates the fact that they are athletes in martial arts, gymnastics and climbing after many years of training. The 2nd and 3rd video actually feature the founder of Parkour- David Belle.

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those that do parkour for themselves, for their souls, for the art or physical challenge, have no need for others' approval and therefore, have no need to be seen as "cool".

So whats the point of watching an actor in a movie or a tv show, going to a sporting event, going to an art museum, reading a book, listening to music or perhaps presenting your occupation through different mediums. Even more so- whats the point of being the protagonist itself. Why not publicise one's skills. You need to understand that the essence of parkour is absolutely not exculsively about posing. Sure it may seem to you, but its not if you look into it. Parkour is about the rythmic elegance of mind and body. Understanding the philosophy of Parkour, is more than simple movement or performance of the movement. Parkour requires fludity, balance and smoothness. Its about focusing your attention to your mind, more than to the outside physical world. Its about following your own path, your intuition, to make progress step by step. Not to forget that its a lot of fun as well.

The below video, will help.




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Decius

Perhaps the founder wants to spread it as an art form. But that's not what he's trying to do, I believe. He's trying to gain noteriety.

There's a magnificent difference between sharing an art form to entice those with similar hearts, and doing it to gain notoriety.

And you can spot these people a mile away. If you're asking me what makes a person a poser versus the real thing, well, that's a discussion that took place years ago in high school when we first realized that everyone we knew was a poser.

Truth is, people witnessing it doesn't help if they don't get the right idea. No one watching this shit is going to take an art form out of it.

Exactly like Karate Kid, they're going to take the coolness out of it. That you're a badass cool guy to jump around suburbia and you'll get all the bitches. Just like karate in the 80s, just like skateboarding in the 90s.

Summit, if you're looking for something to spread your mind's evolution into your body, trust me when I say you begin with your mind, not your body. And that takes longer than 19 years.

So idolizing the physical nature of concentration is pretty pointless when you have not the mind to support it. This is all assuming you are the real thing and not a poser like 99% of them.


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Decius

lol.

you have got to be kidding me.

This guy is no different than every brazillian jiu jitsu guy I've ever met. Not a bad guy... he just thinks his art form somehow is king of the world and does it to belong.

Case closed. Poser fags.

But hey, I'll give it a try for the physical work out. Art form? Me thinks not.


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summit

lol. Noone trys to gain noteriety. That would be derogatory.

Age is such an impertinent factor not worthwhile considering., let alone irrelevent to this thread.

That guy, was sharing his sport, he was not embellishing his art form as superior over others.

I couldn't care less about the music used nor the entertainment value. Yes the videos may act as an endorsment of this nature, to the ignorant viewer of course, but that doesn't qualify them as a substitute what-so-ever. I guess some people simply don't realise the training these guys go through to get to where they are, at the stage where they have the ability to express their skills through a presentation. To state that what they express is not a product of their intense training of gymnastics, martial arts and climbing, is really undiscerning. Parkour is primarily psychological, the rest is physical.

Without philosophy, action has no meaning.


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