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The Internets Rape Of Innocence

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 31yrs • M
A CTL of 1 means that awakendwraith is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
The Internets Rape Of Innocence
for some reason, sites like deviant art, and myspace really bother me. the same way that sluty teenagers and people screaming for death do.
i think its because i myself am pretty innocent, kinda.

why am i like this?
does anyone else feel the same?

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"Why cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."
 36yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Wyote is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
awesome topic.

everything is so easily obtainable via internet. its slightly more complicated now than it was ten years ago, but its simply a matter of jumping through a few hoops that even an inquisitve eight year old could handle.

its also very difficult to stay away from porn on the internet. most sites have links that take you to places which may not be directly related to porn, but have pop ups or other links that direct you to it.

the amount of violence (real and fake) that we are exposed to seems absurdly high as well. clips from Faces of Death are easily accessed by anyone.

i was allowed complete freedom on the internet from about age six. partially due to the fact that it was such a new concept and my parents were ignorant to its unlimited potential for danger. sometimes i do feel like i was raped of my innocence via internet. but ive also learned an enormous amount from it, so im a bit conflicted.

ultimately its up to parents to decide things. personally, if i have kids i wont let them use the internet until they are 10-12 and it will be heavily supervised until they are 16-18.

the internet is shit. people should accept this.

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"A loving heart is the beginning of all knowledge. - Thomas Carlyle"
 32yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Jacker_Jones is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Interesting view...But, do you think that sheltering them will really help or only spark their curiousity. I'd rather just tell them the truth. Instead of avoiding the situation I'd try and get them to learn from it. They won't be able to avoid it forever.

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"I love to see people struggling for their purpose in life..."
 32yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Cynic-Al is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
the internet doesnt neccessarily rape you of your innocence, but it does make it easier for you to do it yourself. if a child has an inquisitive mind, they can find things you wouldnt want them to easily.

and also there are things that do make you wonder, anyone know the site happy tree friends? not exactly the kind of thing you want some little kid finding, there are worse things, but it looks like its designed for children and is something the might easily find.

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"So Schrodinger's Cat is not only neither dead nor alive, but might also be sexually aroused by elbows and peanut butter?"
 36yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Wyote is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
it has very little to do with sheltering them. and they will certainly access it on their own either at a friends house or at school, or any number of places. its just that when given full freedom, people will take full advantage of it regardless of consequences (seen or unforeseen). children crave rules and regulations. without boundaries they become lost and confused.

children should be outside on playgrounds or stretching their brains through several different mediums. not sitting in front of a box full of flith and mostly useless information for their age group.

does no one understand how to raise children anymore? i feel like a fascist when it comes to comparing my views to others my age.

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"A loving heart is the beginning of all knowledge. - Thomas Carlyle"
 42yrs • M
A CTL of 1 means that Ironwood is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
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its just that when given full freedom, people will take full advantage of it regardless of consequences (seen or unforeseen).


Such as the seen and unforseen consequences of sheltering minds.

And in respect to people's conflicted feelings about information and your reaction to it. I think this is due to a mix of inherent insecurities coming from a natural drive for perfection in self and mates as well as coming from attempts at control and compensation of these realities through rules on sex and behavior, particularly through religion.

Even legal adults can feel shameful and dirty for having sexual thoughts and feelings. Because they were taught to and because of insecurities.

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does no one understand how to raise children anymore? i feel like a fascist when it comes to comparing my views to others my age.


Anymore? You are referring to a lot of males in your age group and younger, many still children themselves. Their parents are still too busy trying to keep them from having kids than to teach them how to raise them.

And now that a near if not clear majority of mothers have to work through the formative years of their own children, they themselves know less and less about raising them.

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children crave rules and regulations. without boundaries they become lost and confused.


Yes, the need direction, and the structure and guidance to maintain it. In respect to the internet, that would simply mean moderation and focus. Adult material needs to be addressed and explained, then monitered for abuse or obsession, but not moderate use or exploration.

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children should be outside on playgrounds or stretching their brains through several different mediums. not sitting in front of a box full of flith and mostly useless information for their age group.


Not JUST sitting in front of such a box. And I'm sure there is plenty of age appropriate learning and recreational material that none of us spend much time finding.

We cannot fear or censor sex and violence, for if we should, then we would know nothing of the most basic parts of our own existance. The history of the world past, present, and future, and the story of human life itself, begins with sex, and ends with death, too often violently.

These issues must simply be addressed and put in context.

Innocence is as relative and opinion based word as any other.

Perhaps in this thread some of us should share what we believe we are losing or being raped of exactly.

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"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"
 31yrs • M
A CTL of 1 means that awakendwraith is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
....
you guys....
ok. not so much sex. i think that leftwood kinda hit it with the insecurities part. at least for me. i think thats why i feel the way i do, and those feelings are not anger nor regret. and i think wyote hit it with th whole box thing. it would have been a far more enjoable experience had the first naked women i saw been in real life, and not on tv or the internet.

and the thing about the internet is that even if a kid isnt neccecarily looking for porn, he can still find it.
one type i google searched the word ham. on the 7th page i found a porn link. i know, thats pretty deep into it, but still.

i think it is more that i feel that it is becomeing a fad for kids to act like they are sexually aware and that looking sexy is an extremely important thing. and i cant help but find that site like myspace promote this "sexuall" disposition among young people. the experiences should be aquired in a much less electronical way.

but i wasnt really talking about sex.

i guess i just feel that regret of missing the change. and not even wanting to have been there....

i wanted you guys to talk about the feeling i was haveing, not how shity the internet is.



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"Why cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."
 32yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Jacker_Jones is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Rules and regualtions are important but it's more important to tell them the reasons behind them. If they are aware of the situation and aware of the problems behind it then and only then they might not think twice about it.

Awakend I think your feelings are perfectly natural. Such sexually open women are intimidating or at least to men that aren't as open to such feelings. Don't be scared it's only pussy.

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"I love to see people struggling for their purpose in life..."
 31yrs • M
A CTL of 1 means that awakendwraith is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
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but i wasnt really talking about sex


dude, i am DEFINETLY not scared of pussy.
the "open" women are the least intimidating people i have ever met.

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"Why cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."
 36yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Wyote is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
you guys make it sound like i wouldnt even talk to a kid, just lay down all these rules. rules are meant to be broken. i simply laid out a logical guidline. discussing things is the most important aspect of parenting.

but anyway, on to the whole feeling aspect that awakends trying to get at. i wasnt referring to simply sex either, its just that thats the easiest thing to lean toward talking about. i feel like the internet inadvertently took away a lot of my innocence, and it is somewhat responsible for my cynicism.

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"A loving heart is the beginning of all knowledge. - Thomas Carlyle"
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 32yrs • F •
A CTL of 1 means that Attolia is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Life rapes you of innocence. The internet just does it quicker.

All forms of perversion (not just sexual) can be found in books and in people. The internet just makes it easier to get.

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"How can we be just in a world without mercy and merciful in a world without justice?"
 36yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Wyote is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
ah so very true. the more you come across in life the less innocent you become, and the internet gives you a lot all at once.

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"A loving heart is the beginning of all knowledge. - Thomas Carlyle"
 42yrs • M
A CTL of 1 means that Ironwood is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
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i guess i just feel that regret of missing the change. and not even wanting to have been there....


what change.

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why am i like this?



Well, if you relate to the insecurity aspect then I would want to know where it stems from.

This could get embarassing, but would be a quite the show of strength and honesty that you may be seeking in your search to understand this.

Know this. One of the number one salves for the pains of insecurity, is simply sharing it with others, basically desensitizing yourself to it.

This is why therapists are so popular, it helps to let things out.

But yes, most people on some level or another share your insecurity, I promise you this. Those who act as if they don't, hide it better or simply attempt to overcompensate and or deny it.

But again I must also know what change you refer exactly, you say not so much sex, perversion was mentioned, I need more clarification.

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Life rapes you of innocence. The internet just does it quicker.

All forms of perversion (not just sexual) can be found in books and in people. The internet just makes it easier to get.


Life? Or information and Knowledge? Or just the onw side of life, the "dark" side, "perverse" and taboo, that which is feared, mortality, carnal desire, insecurity, violence, pain, suffering.




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"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"
 31yrs • M
A CTL of 1 means that awakendwraith is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
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what change

i suppose from child to not child. i kinda dotn know when that happend. and i dont care. i think the thing that bothers me, and that is not insecurity i can assure you, is that everyone else seems to be getting all of these perverse things from the internet.
but that doesnt explain my feelings. maybe i am insecure, but most people know what they are insecure about. and i really dont think that the child analogy is well fitting because i still feel like its not right. the reason that is.

and i dont get emmbarassed so ask anything and everything.
just keep shhoting random shots and hopefully you'll hit it.
it usually works for me when im helping someone else, but i dont want to do it myself. because i might be tainted, ad because i honestly have no clue about why im like this.

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"Why cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."
 31yrs • M
A CTL of 1 means that awakendwraith is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
i think that its more the use of sex appeal in everything. it bothers me.

like in video games. in a video game called "Final Fantasy X-2" the characters in the video game are disigned to look sexy. its a fucking video game. why the hell would they do that? i hate it. using peoples weakness like that and compleatly unsanctifying everything that just gives me a horrible feeling. im not saying that im not comfortable with sex, i am. i will talk about anything. with anybody. people at my school know me as extremely open, honest, and crazy. so i know thats not the problem, because i know im not faking it.

just thought i'd update

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