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BrokeBack Mountain

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81 Posts / 40M
     :   25yrs   :  
ultima

BrokeBack Mountain [+ favourites]

Let me start off by saying.. if any of you, straight or gay havnt seen this movie.. plz do so now...

[spoilers follow]:

I loved this movie and almost everything about it but the tagline ("Love is a force of nature" which strikes me as cheesy and contrived. I think the tagline should have been "If you can't fix it, you've got to stand it".

The fact that Jack and Ennis have wives and Jack has affairs with other men doesn't really cheapen Jack and Ennis' relationship because Jack and Ennis don't really have a relationship. Ennis' life is a series of frustrations and disappointments because his central problem is that he loves someone deeply and has no context for that sort of emotion. In rural 1963 Wyoming to be queer was to be something less than a man, which is unthinkable to Ennis. Ennis and Jack are never even able to say, "I love you" to each other, despite the obviousness of the bond between them and are stuck with brief, impassioned, stolen time with each other. Jack being a little braver and a little more self-aware has dreams of them actually having a life together, something Ennis views as impossible and foolish. Their tragedy is that they're never really together, but never really able to get past their feelings for each other. I also loved Michelle Williams in this film, and felt she gave depth and pathos to Alma, a woman whose frustration and bottled rage mirrors her husband's. I didn't feel any of the sex scenes were gratuitous and felt that both scenes with Alma established important points about her relationship with her husband. Also, I'm not certain that the man in Mexico was necessarily a prostitute, he could have been a no-strings-attached hookup.
Mainly, I loved the ordinariness of this movie. Jack and especially Ennis were pretty plain people with nothing really distinguishing them beyond the fact that they were in love with each other without any sort of direction to go in.


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81 Posts / 40M
     :   25yrs   :  
ultima

Wow... thats really sad not one single person on this forum has seen the movie. quite sad. I guess we are all uncomfortable with our sexuality. Sad...


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1445 Posts / 90M
     :   30yrs   :  
Restless Mind

I have watched. I like the scenery and the idea of the movie. I liked how it was reality and not some distored vision of what coming out was like in the 60's.

As far as the movie being produced is concerened I thought it was complete shit. T he movie was all over the place, time shifting and location shifting. The viewer is left to say what the fuck is going on here and what the fuck did he just say?

It could have been alot better of a movie if it was directed / produced .better


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5 Posts / 34M
     :   23yrs   :  
alecxandir

i havent seen it yet but am looking forward to doin so


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161 Posts / 39M
     :   20yrs   :  
takemeseriously

I saw it. It was bitchin'. It was totally worth the $7 to see Jake Gyllenhall naked.


"If home is where the heart is, then I got evicted this week (Johnny Hobo and the Freight Trains)"

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2848 Posts / 94M
     :   28yrs   :  
Decius

Apparently most of you missed the value of the movie.

This is a movie about homosexual love and at the end of it no one is thinking about ass fucking. Doesn't that seem remarkable to you?

Like everyone who watched this movie I was staring at Heath ledger's ass and Jake's ass and doing what I do when I look at a gay guy which is automatically think of the ass fucking.

By the end, all that matters is the love and the relationship and the social pressures. And even the social pressures weren't the important part.

They successfully made a gay love story where by the end of it, we forgot they were "gay" and just remembered that Jake was "in love".

To remove the taboo of being a "fag" within the span of a movie is a feat. This film should be applauded for succeeding where hundreds of gay pride parades have failed.

Another important note: Heath Ledger was the star... and I am awestruck at how he got his shit together because up to this point I thought he was a totally shit actor. He outperformed Jake G easily.


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161 Posts / 39M
     :   20yrs   :  
takemeseriously

quote:
He outperformed Jake G easily.

In the acting department? Yes. In the naked department? No.


"If home is where the heart is, then I got evicted this week (Johnny Hobo and the Freight Trains)"

5 Posts / 34M
     :   23yrs   :  
alecxandir

lol i thought there wouldnt be any Nudity. [lol] damn now i really need to go see it [J/K]


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