Infinite universes from Matter and Anti-Matter

Since I do not know where the origin comes from nor can I make any intelligent conclusions about that, the best I can do is assume that the origin is similar to entities in this universe in that the origin evolves... or at least it evolved at some point in the past.

It evolved to a point where it knew everything there was to know about the universe, and therefore became infinitely intelligent.

At least intelligent enough to have created the universe we exist in and know everything we consider to be infinity.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

but this guy is under the assumption there is no beggining. lets stay there. and the onley reason why things evolve is because they need to in order to survive. i'm being redundent, but what if you where so powerfull you didn't need to. have you ever seen the movie "evolution" with sean william scott and david dacuvnie, the most evolved form of something is a big ass blob.

"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

If there is no beginning, it is more likely that we are amidst a universe that has been created by an entity that has evolved, since there is timeless existance behind us.

I guess my point is, I do not see how, logically, an entity would exist being all powerful without the need to be all powerful. If it had the need, then it would have evolved as such.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

good point.

"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

Decius, the universe is the RESULT of timeless creation strectched out and converted in to hard, linear progression.

Quantum Mechanics 101... or is it 207... or 513... I can't remember!

"Always give to the left, coz the right way is the wrong way."

i juast realived, decius, you didn't answer any of my qeustions

"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

There was no beginning and there will be no end- eternity. Every ending has a new beginning and therefore eternity is established.

"The summit is just a halfway point"

lets assume infinity is all. From infinity localalised events are created. How then, if you are a local being in an infinite universe, is your view of infinity real? In fact, where is the line that seperates you from the universe? You change mass, size, shape, every fraction of a second-just by breathing for one. To get away from this, the self is seperate from, yet related to what can only be infinity. As such, you are one creating localised events, you are not a localised event creating the one. Thus, matter and antimatter are solely localised products of infinity, and time is just memory of change.

""No words""

I agree with heyme1.

It has been said that everything is relativ. And this is basicly the way I think that we proces events. We base everything of something else. We base time on how fast the earth rotates around the sun, and how fast ´the earth rotate around ourself. And in more primitive times, how fast our heart beats.

After that we can ultimatly say how long ago our universe have existed. But after that it gets kind of hard. Cuz you cant really compare anything to infinity and come out with something else then "infinity is bigger".

So at this point we can really start to understand the term "Time is just an illusion". And as heyjme1 said, "time is just memory of change".

Also since we base our thought around comparing one thing with another basicly, the term "Infinity" becomes kind of a mind bender.

Hi all I know I'm new to all these posts and they are dated September and I'm writing this in December, so maybe one of you will get to it in 2007.

Anyway I have loved reading all these posts on deep subjects and just find it hilarious seeing you all trying to make sense of it.

This is the toughest question of all, the origins of the universe, and how it fits with the even bigger picture of how and why it exists. With our limited intelligence I definately think we are fighting a losing battle trying to understand. However the idea of multiple universes/alternate realities etc. is certainly more appealing when I start to think of what came before and what comes after. Of course time and reality is relative to our own personal understanding as human beings living on the Earth in this universe, so thinking beyond that isn't going to be a simple thing.

All I can say with my limited understanding is that I think we are living in one of many different realities, I believe heaven is in another reality or dimension or whatever you want to call it and I think if there is a beginning it is so far back it almost doesn't matter. But how can there be a beginning? Surely we can't have a universe made from nothing! The nothing must have contained something to have made something out of it!?

Of course humans have always contemplated these deep thoughts, or we wouldn't have religion, philosophy, science etc. But I do think scientists, physicists especially make things far too complicated by bringing lots of complicated equasions into it all. And they're always trying to combine all their past theories into one big theory of everything, what's up with that? Why does there even have to be a nice neat little underlined theory or answer to all these questions? yeah yeah, I know it's fun to debate them or we wouldn't have this site, oh well, my conclusion is there are many different universes and the energies of them are very different depending on whether they contain matter or anti-matter and occasionally when they come together they anhilate each other and cause a big bang starting the process all over again.

Having said that I do believe in God so as he has always been and always will be I suppose all these realities exist within God's imagination and we are all just his/her/it's dream! Did I just hear a groan through the computer screen... Oh no here we go again...

""Each child holds the world in an open hand to mould it into any shape they choose.""

dont think of the material realm, even if the universe is infinite, the spirtual logical thing to do is to look into the thing that feeds your inner need.

"Thy Lovest Soul"

"Look into the thing that feeds your inner need?!"
I think you are talking about that God shaped hole we all seem to have that gives us as creative, spiritual, intelligent beings a "deep an inner desperate need" to find meaning where perhaps ultimately it could be quite possible that there isn't any. This is a constant human inner struggle. To know why we are here. We think there must be a reason that we are who we are and that there is a spiritual reason for our existence. Of course there might be, and I personally really hope there is. Because what would be the point of free will anyway if there wasn't. But I suppose we must hold on to that fraction of an outside chance that there just is no spiritual deeper reaon or meaning for existence, and the universe and us are just complicated accidents, by-products if you will of some vast physical and quite mundane cosmic workings. Who knows?

Anyway I still think time is relative to the individual. I think I am mixing up all the threads and I'm confused to where I was going now, Oh well...

""Each child holds the world in an open hand to mould it into any shape they choose.""

i see your point, but time isnt relative, considering if we're not complete here on our journey in one life time, reincarnation.

"Thy Lovest Soul"

Yes but if you are reincarnated, you are still following a pattern of cosmic time - over several life times. Therefore time is still relative to the individual's soul is it not?

""Each child holds the world in an open hand to mould it into any shape they choose.""

well the word importance is one not relevant to a soul for a soul doesnt not need to judge on what's *important* , time would be a materialistic thing for a soul cannot die, time does not effect it in anyways, a soul will do whatever it has to, to reach it's desination, it's goal

"Thy Lovest Soul"