"So Ghandi wasn't a Christian; he didn't have grace by God because of this so he's going to hell. Come on.... Grace is just a word with no meaning here.Try dreaming a little dream tonight."
However ridiculous or unfair this may seem, it is still the claim of "Christians" and therefore the claim of their God that there is Heaven and Hell, and coinciding with this, the salvation or damnation of a person's soul.
Truly heyjme1, you must be acquainted with the definition of "Grace" within the context of Jesus claim somewhat. It's pretty obvious what Christians mean when they say this - and also to say the Bible spells this out in numerous places. Haven't you heard the song "Amazing Grace?"
"I believe Jesus existed. Once in a while great people pop up. We had Mother Teresa and Ghandi. Whether Jesus was bon from a virgin or the son of God who died for our sins; that he is the way to God is very questionable. If I've interpreted rihtly that the only way is tnrough him or hell, thats woking on fear. Would Ghandi not be accepted by God?, he had access to the Bible, read it, but wasn't a Christian, yet he was far more vrtuous than the vast, vast majority of Christians."
Yet virtue - although a goal that Christians (and non-Christians) try to strive for and constantly fail - is not the concern of the God of the Bible. In knowing that failure is in our nature from the very inception of our lives, we have been given a chance to be redeemed for our failures (sin). This redemption is given free (grace) by accepting Jesus as our sacrifice, what he has done, and taking his words to heart. Although Ghandi may have been a phenominal person, he still wasn't a follower of Christ.
I don't know much about Ghandi, but if he was teaching others contrary to the truth of God, after receiving the truth of God, then he was against God. Not for Him.
I'm sorry I'm so blunt, I just like to state things plainly. Hope you don't mind.
But going along these lines, I know that many are bitter to the claim that all who don't have faith in the Judeo-Christian God are going to Hell. Forgetting about Hell and the fact that we don't really know whether it's "fire and brimstone", complete destruction, or just separation from God, suppose that after sifting through the claims that Jesus and Christians have made about the good stuff about God, Salvation, and "Life to the full" and if finding that this stuff really is good, is there reason not to have faith in God?
And more importantly, if this seems unreasonable to people, does it nullify God's claim if true, nonetheless?
All I'm saying is if people do not want to choose faith in Jesus and believe in the Judeo-Christian God, they don't have to. This is the way God has created us. With free will.
Although the Spirit may testify to the truths about Jesus and his Father, this is not the only testimony. We have the testimonies of the Apostles from the individual gospels and letters in the Bible. We have the written testimonies of Christian men who were contemporaries of the Apostles which attest to the authorship of the books of the New Testament. There are also writings of non-Christian contemporaries of Jesus and the Apostles - that's right, NON-Christians - who bear testimony to Jesus and his signs and wonders, his crucifixion, and the spread of christianity throughout the eastern continents. Our Bible has been shown to be 99.95% unchanged based on the vast quantity of manuscripts, some of which date to within 100 years after Jesus death.
The evidences for Jesus add up amazingly. These evidences give Christians confidence in what they believe because they know that their faith doesn't have to be a blind leap. That's another reason people believe the Jesus story.